Hi all,

After our discussion at the meet last night, I have been attempting to estimate
the scale of the issue of source packages which are not buildable on Devuan
because of unsatisfiable Build-Deps.

The attached list very rough estimate produced by using 'build-rdeps systemd' on
Debian sid, grepping unstable from amprolla's raw/bannedpackages.txt and using
comm(1) to compare the lists and identify pacakges only in the first of
those. It produces 107 source packages that might be problematic, of which 8 are
already forked.

Looking through the list, some are cruft and are never going to be useful on
Devuan (eg debspawn). They need to be excluded by amprolla being better. I will
work on that in the next few days. As I said at the meet, I think getting
amprolla to recursively exclude packages with banned dependencies will clear
some of the cruft. However, some packages jump out to me (alsa-utils, bluez,
e2fsprogs, lvm2, speech-dispatcher) as being mainstream and not being able to
build them on a Devuan system should be a concern.

Obviously there are caveats, I only looked at systemd reverse build-deps in
unstable and there may well be others.

Comments welcome.

Mark


alsa-utils
anytun
ayatana-indicator-application
ayatana-indicator-bluetooth
ayatana-indicator-datetime
ayatana-indicator-keyboard
ayatana-indicator-messages
ayatana-indicator-notifications
ayatana-indicator-power
ayatana-indicator-printers
ayatana-indicator-session
ayatana-indicator-sound
bluez
bolt
clevis
cluster-glue
cockpit
*colord
crowdsec
dbus-broker
ddupdate
debspawn
dlt-daemon
dnf
dnsdist
driverctl
dunst
e17
e2fsprogs
efl
fcoe-utils
freeipa
freeipmi
fwupd
gamemode
gammu
gdm3
gnome-firmware
gnome-remote-desktop
gnome-session
gnome-settings-daemon
gnome-shell
gnome-user-share
gssproxy
gvfs
hddemux
heartbeat
iio-sensor-proxy
intel-hdcp
irker
*iwd
jitterentropy-rngd
kde-config-systemd
ledmon
libayatana-indicator
libratbag
libreswan
libvma
libwacom
lirc
logiops
lvm2
mandos
mdevctl
multipath-tools
nagios-tang
neard
netctl
netplan.io
*network-manager
nss-tls
ntpsec
oddjob
onedrive
*openvpn
owfs
pacemaker
pcp
pdns
*pdns-recursor
phodav
pipewire
plocate
*plymouth
rauc
razercfg
resource-agents
rkt
*rsyslog
rust-whoami
sddm
smcroute
speech-dispatcher
spice-vdagent
sssd
strongswan
sysstat
tang
thinkfan
tracker-miners
tuned
usbguard
usbmuxd
*util-linux
wireguard
xdg-desktop-portal-wlr
xrdp

* Already forked

[107 in total, 8 already forked]