Hi terryc,

Those are *not* systemd libraries. They're services files or helpers
shipped with the various packages you install. It is not possible to get
rid of them without forking nearly all debian packages, which is beyond
the scope of the devuan project. The service files are text files and
benign.

Your system **is without** systemd.

Cheers,
Ludovic

On dim, 02 mai 2021, terryc wrote:

> On Sat, 1 May 2021 17:11:48 +0200
> Didier Kryn <kryn@???> wrote:
>
> Unfortunately there are systemd libraries installed by Devuan-beowulf
> desktop installation DVD.
>
> There are in
> /ver/lib/
> /lib
> /etc and
> /run
>
> It appears to be something in the base system as both the headless
> systems I recently set up have/had* them.
>
> Optins selected were
> console stuff
> print server,
> ssh server
> and what ever is last.
>
> One system did have xfce-xfce4 selected, but the libraries and not
> dependant on these.
>
> *rm -rf systemd on the relevant directories doesn't seem to affect
> anything. I did this as 'aptitude search systemd' didn't list any
> packages installed.
>
> Memo to self; use minimal installation next time.