Author: Hendrik Boom Date: To: dng Subject: Re: [DNG] Historical note on double negation.
On Thu, Dec 24, 2020 at 08:53:01PM -0800, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Ian Zimmerman (itz@???):
> > But if "and" is a conjunction in this sentence pattern, the nouns or
> > pronouns it joins together form the subject, and so they ought to be in
> > the nominative, i.e. "John and I".
> I vaguely recall Hendrik suggesting that 'and' functioning as a
> proposition makes 'John and me' a suitable subject for the sentence,
> i.e., in the nominative case, which I thought a startling notion both
> for the idea of 'and' being anything but a conjunction and for the
> conclusion drawn. I'd have to check the archive to see if I read that
> entirely right -- but definitely the claim of 'and' being a preposition
> was part of it.
You read it right. But it isn't so in modern educated English.
Just in remote ancestors of english,
And in some vestigial slang phrases.