On Thu, Dec 24, 2020 at 08:53:01PM -0800, Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting Ian Zimmerman (itz@???):
>
> > But if "and" is a conjunction in this sentence pattern, the nouns or
> > pronouns it joins together form the subject, and so they ought to be in
> > the nominative, i.e. "John and I".
>
> Indeed.
>
> I vaguely recall Hendrik suggesting that 'and' functioning as a
> proposition makes 'John and me' a suitable subject for the sentence,
> i.e., in the nominative case, which I thought a startling notion both
> for the idea of 'and' being anything but a conjunction and for the
> conclusion drawn. I'd have to check the archive to see if I read that
> entirely right -- but definitely the claim of 'and' being a preposition
> was part of it.

You read it right. But it isn't so in modern educated English.
Just in remote ancestors of english,
And in some vestigial slang phrases.

-- hendrik

>
> Not that this is worth dwelling on, unless good for points of benevolent
> entertainment.
>
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