It is partially true. Hildon handle the gtk app is it true but the app
it is not adjusted as phone friendly. It is not easy to render app
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> Subject: [maemo-leste] Gtk3 (was: Re: Maemo-Leste Digest, Vol 10,
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> On 28/11/2019 11:49, Matteo Bonicolini wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I think is better to make a port of empathy to hildonize it.
>
> I think that might be interesting too.
>
>> It is the fast way to do te app.
>
> One thing to keep in mind is that currently we don't package a
> hildonized gtk3 yet. I know some work had been done to make that happen,
> but I can't find it right now.
>
>
>> After this step we can make integration with gnome contact + empathy.
>>
>> I need to study the telepathy backend.
>
> That makes sense.
>
>> Another thing to do is upgrade hildon to render better standard linux
>> gtk app in a mobile fashion. In this way may be easy to integrate
>> Linux Desktop app environment in the phone.
>
> When you use gtk2, you will see that this already kind of works.
>
> PS: May I suggest you turn off digest mode, so that replies and threads
> make more sense. Digest mode is useful for the casual reader, but if
> we're to interact on the list, it's probably easier to turn it off.
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> Cheers,
> Merlijn
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>>
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>>> 2. Phone UI was Re: Maemo-Leste Digest, Vol 9, Issue 7
>>> (Pavel Machek)
>>> 3. Library for ofono communication was Re: Maemo-Leste Digest,
>>> Vol 9, Issue 7 (Pavel Machek)
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>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 19:49:02 +0100
>>> From: Matteo Bonicolini <bonkko@???>
>>> To: maemo-leste@???
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>>> Yes.
>>> In my opinion we can make the full application from zero. If the
>>> library is ok there are no problem.
>>>
>>> For neo free runner there was
>>> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Category:Zhone_screenshots .
>>> It should a be an inspiration.
>>>
>>> With lib should be easy to make the stuff.
>>>
>>> Hildon is gtk and I think it is better to use gtk.
>>>
>>> Also should be a good idea to integrate libpurple and other stuff for
>>> voip and anonymity
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Matteo Bonicolini.
>>>
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>>>> Message: 1
>>>> Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2019 16:41:32 +0100
>>>> From: Matteo Bonicolini <bonkko@???>
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>>>> ======TOPIC OPHONO INTEGRATION======
>>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>> my phone was broken and I rebuy it with some time to wait. We was
>>>> agree to assign ophono integration as task for my startup in the
>>>> distro.
>>>>
>>>> Now I see that someone started the development. I read the github and
>>>> the ninth update.
>>>>
>>>> Can I follow and help with the ophono integration and the sms GUI?
>>>>
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>>>>> 1. Maemo Leste - Ninth Update (March till August) 2019
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>>>>> Message: 1
>>>>> Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2019 15:00:34 +0200
>>>>> From: Merlijn Wajer <merlijn@???>
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>>>>> Subject: [maemo-leste] Maemo Leste - Ninth Update (March till August)
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>>>>> Hey everyone,
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>>>>> If you've been considering helping out but haven't yet, now might be a
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>>>> Message: 2
>>>> Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 09:12:45 +0100
>>>> From: Merlijn Wajer <merlijn@???>
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>>>> Hi Matteo,
>>>>
>>>> On 26/11/2019 16:41, Matteo Bonicolini wrote:
>>>>> ======TOPIC OPHONO INTEGRATION======
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>> my phone was broken and I rebuy it with some time to wait. We was
>>>>> agree to assign ophono integration as task for my startup in the
>>>>> distro.
>>>>
>>>> Sorry to hear it broke, and glad to hear you have a new one now.
>>>>
>>>>> Now I see that someone started the development. I read the github and
>>>>> the ninth update.
>>>>
>>>> I will try to follow up with another update soon.
>>>>
>>>>> Can I follow and help with the ophono integration and the sms GUI?
>>>>
>>>> We definitely need a UI for phone calls, SMS and contacts. I think I
>>>> have the libgofono stuff handled - I at least need to clean up the code
>>>> a bit more before it makes sense for others to dive in.
>>>>
>>>> We should probably start making a plan for this soon. We can try to
>>>> reverse-engineer parts of existing Maemo in an attempt to make the UI
>>>> the same (this is complicated by the fact that some parts require html
>>>> engine, like SMS), but could be worth it.
>>>>
>>>> Alternatively, we can try to look at existing applications for dialer
>>>> (phone), sms and contacts management. Maybe UBPorts has something
>>>> usable.
>>>>
>>>> We could also create something ourselves.
>>>>
>>>> Freemangordon probably has opinions on this, too.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Merlijn
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>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 22:29:26 +0100
>>> From: Pavel Machek <pavel@???>
>>> To: Merlijn Wajer <merlijn@???>
>>> Cc: maemo-leste@???
>>> Subject: [maemo-leste] Phone UI was Re: Maemo-Leste Digest, Vol 9,
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>>> Hi!
>>>
>>>>> Now I see that someone started the development. I read the github and
>>>>> the ninth update.
>>>>
>>>> I will try to follow up with another update soon.
>>>>
>>>>> Can I follow and help with the ophono integration and the sms GUI?
>>>>
>>>> We definitely need a UI for phone calls, SMS and contacts. I think I
>>>> have the libgofono stuff handled - I at least need to clean up the code
>>>> a bit more before it makes sense for others to dive in.
>>>>
>>>> We should probably start making a plan for this soon. We can try to
>>>> reverse-engineer parts of existing Maemo in an attempt to make the UI
>>>> the same (this is complicated by the fact that some parts require html
>>>> engine, like SMS), but could be worth it.
>>>>
>>>> Alternatively, we can try to look at existing applications for dialer
>>>> (phone), sms and contacts management. Maybe UBPorts has something
>>>> usable.
>>>
>>> If you want something simple, there's Unicsy Demo project (and ofone
>>> inside). https://github.com/pavelmachek/unicsy_demo/tree/master/ofone
>>>
>>> I started rewriting it to rust, (tui repository, rfone).
>>>
>>> If you want "real" contacts application, I suggest looking at Gnome
>>> contacts. Purism people made it working on a phone, and it should be
>>> mainlined.
>>>
>>> They also have a gui for doing phones. Phosh, iirc; but they use
>>> different backend, so that's probably not applicable.
>>>
>>> I'd definitely suggest _not_ starting "yet another phone shell".
>>>
>>> One thing I thought about... should the sms go into "mailbox" format?
>>> So that common mail clients can be used to access them, concurrent
>>> access works, imap works, etc? [Unfortunately, details are tricky].
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Pavel
>>> --
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>>> Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 22:39:23 +0100
>>> From: Pavel Machek <pavel@???>
>>> To: Merlijn Wajer <merlijn@???>
>>> Cc: maemo-leste@???
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>>> Hi!
>>>
>>>>> Can I follow and help with the ophono integration and the sms GUI?
>>>>
>>>> We definitely need a UI for phone calls, SMS and contacts. I think I
>>>> have the libgofono stuff handled - I at least need to clean up the code
>>>> a bit more before it makes sense for others to dive in.
>>>
>>> libgofono... it would be nice to publish it somewhere. Not
>>> neccessarily to dive in right now, but to see details like "what
>>> language it is" etc...
>>>
>>> I tried something along those lines in Rust, but found out that mixing
>>> Rust with Gtk+ is quite tricky.
>>>
>>> My Rust stuff is here:
>>>
>>> https://gitlab.com/tui/tui/tree/master/rfone
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Pavel
>>> --
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>>> Message: 4
>>> Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 02:18:27 +0100
>>> From: Merlijn Wajer <merlijn@???>
>>> To: Pavel Machek <pavel@???>
>>> Cc: maemo-leste@???
>>> Subject: Re: [maemo-leste] Library for ofono communication was Re:
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>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> On 27/11/2019 22:39, Pavel Machek wrote:
>>>> Hi!
>>>>
>>>>>> Can I follow and help with the ophono integration and the sms GUI?
>>>>>
>>>>> We definitely need a UI for phone calls, SMS and contacts. I think I
>>>>> have the libgofono stuff handled - I at least need to clean up the code
>>>>> a bit more before it makes sense for others to dive in.
>>>>
>>>> libgofono... it would be nice to publish it somewhere. Not
>>>> neccessarily to dive in right now, but to see details like "what
>>>> language it is" etc...
>>>
>>> It's written by the Mer/Jolla folks, we have a repo with a few (to be
>>> send for review) patches here:
>>>
>>> https://github.com/maemo-leste/libgofono
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Merlijn
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>> Message: 5
>>> Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 03:58:45 +0100 (CET)
>>> From: Merlijn Wajer <merlijn@???>
>>> To: Matteo Bonicolini <bonkko@???>
>>> Cc: maemo-leste@???
>>> Subject: Re: [maemo-leste] Maemo-Leste Digest, Vol 10, Issue 1
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>>> Hi Matteo,
>>>
>>> On Wed, 27 Nov 2019, Matteo Bonicolini wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes.
>>>> In my opinion we can make the full application from zero. If the
>>>> library is ok there are no problem.
>>>
>>> We'll probably use telepathy as a backend. There is currently a GUI
>>> client for it, called empathy, but it's not mobile ready (at all), but
>>> it is features in some of news posts.
>>> Telepathy also has an ofono plugin, and texts (and calls) should work
>>> with
>>> that.
>>>
>>> Telepathy also does many of the things libpurple does - like IRC
>>> accounts and other things.
>>>
>>> Maybe you can take a look at what Pavel recommends, I like the idea of
>>> sharing code and if there is a readymade solution for contacts that we
>>> can "hildonize", that could be interesting too.
>>>
>>> We might need to get the gtk3 port for hildon ready soon then, though.
>>>
>>>> For neo free runner there was
>>>> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Category:Zhone_screenshots .
>>>> It should a be an inspiration.
>>>>
>>>> With lib should be easy to make the stuff.
>>>
>>> I think that the dialer mostly needs to interface with telepathy.
>>>
>>>> Hildon is gtk and I think it is better to use gtk.
>>>
>>> Agreed.
>>>>
>>>> Also should be a good idea to integrate libpurple and other stuff for
>>>> voip and anonymity
>>>
>>> I think Telepathy also does VOIP, I've tested that just a few days
>>> ago.
>>>
>>> What do you think?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Merlijn
>>>
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