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> 1. Re: Library for ofono communication was Re: Maemo-Leste
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 04:35:42 +0100 (CET)
> From: Merlijn Wajer <merlijn@???>
> To: Pavel Machek <pavel@???>
> Cc: maemo-leste@???
> Subject: Re: [maemo-leste] Library for ofono communication was Re:
> Maemo-Leste Digest, Vol 9, Issue 7
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> Hi,
>
> On Wed, 27 Nov 2019, Pavel Machek wrote:
>
>> Hi!
>>
>>>> Can I follow and help with the ophono integration and the sms GUI?
>>>
>>> We definitely need a UI for phone calls, SMS and contacts. I think I
>>> have the libgofono stuff handled - I at least need to clean up the code
>>> a bit more before it makes sense for others to dive in.
>>
>> libgofono... it would be nice to publish it somewhere. Not
>> neccessarily to dive in right now, but to see details like "what
>> language it is" etc...
>
> Upstream is here:
>
> https://git.merproject.org/mer-core/libgofono/
>
> Our "fork" is here:
>
> https://github.com/maemo-leste/libgofono
>
> (It's not really a fork, but we'll have a few patches and send them
> upstream later)
>
> Packages using libgofono, both WIP, I've working on connui-cellular,
> libicd-network-ofono should not be too hard to finish initial
> implementation of.
>
> https://github.com/maemo-leste/libicd-network-ofono
> https://github.com/maemo-leste/connui-cellular/tree/ofono-port
>
> For phone/sms/UI interaction, we probably want to go through telepathy-ring.
>
> Cheers,
> Merlijn
>
>>
>> I tried something along those lines in Rust, but found out that mixing
>> Rust with Gtk+ is quite tricky.
>>
>> My Rust stuff is here:
>>
>> https://gitlab.com/tui/tui/tree/master/rfone
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Pavel
>> --
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>> (cesky, pictures)
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 11:49:06 +0100
> From: Matteo Bonicolini <bonkko@???>
> To: maemo-leste@???
> Subject: Re: [maemo-leste] Maemo-Leste Digest, Vol 10, Issue 2
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> Hello,
>
> I think is better to make a port of empathy to hildonize it.
>
> It is the fast way to do te app.
>
> After this step we can make integration with gnome contact + empathy.
>
> I need to study the telepathy backend.
>
> Another thing to do is upgrade hildon to render better standard linux
> gtk app in a mobile fashion. In this way may be easy to integrate
> Linux Desktop app environment in the phone.
>
> On 11/28/19, maemo-leste-request@???
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>> 2. Phone UI was Re: Maemo-Leste Digest, Vol 9, Issue 7
>> (Pavel Machek)
>> 3. Library for ofono communication was Re: Maemo-Leste Digest,
>> Vol 9, Issue 7 (Pavel Machek)
>> 4. Re: Library for ofono communication was Re: Maemo-Leste
>> Digest, Vol 9, Issue 7 (Merlijn Wajer)
>> 5. Re: Maemo-Leste Digest, Vol 10, Issue 1 (Merlijn Wajer)
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>> Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 19:49:02 +0100
>> From: Matteo Bonicolini <bonkko@???>
>> To: maemo-leste@???
>> Subject: Re: [maemo-leste] Maemo-Leste Digest, Vol 10, Issue 1
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>> Yes.
>> In my opinion we can make the full application from zero. If the
>> library is ok there are no problem.
>>
>> For neo free runner there was
>> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Category:Zhone_screenshots .
>> It should a be an inspiration.
>>
>> With lib should be easy to make the stuff.
>>
>> Hildon is gtk and I think it is better to use gtk.
>>
>> Also should be a good idea to integrate libpurple and other stuff for
>> voip and anonymity
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Matteo Bonicolini.
>>
>> On 11/27/19, maemo-leste-request@???
>> <maemo-leste-request@???> wrote:
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>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2019 16:41:32 +0100
>>> From: Matteo Bonicolini <bonkko@???>
>>> To: maemo-leste@???
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>>> ======TOPIC OPHONO INTEGRATION======
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>> my phone was broken and I rebuy it with some time to wait. We was
>>> agree to assign ophono integration as task for my startup in the
>>> distro.
>>>
>>> Now I see that someone started the development. I read the github and
>>> the ninth update.
>>>
>>> Can I follow and help with the ophono integration and the sms GUI?
>>>
>>> On 8/25/19, maemo-leste-request@???
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>>>> Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2019 15:00:34 +0200
>>>> From: Merlijn Wajer <merlijn@???>
>>>> To: maemo-leste@???
>>>> Subject: [maemo-leste] Maemo Leste - Ninth Update (March till August)
>>>> 2019
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>>>> Hey everyone,
>>>>
>>>> There's a new blog/update post out:
>>>>
>>>> https://maemo-leste.github.io/maemo-leste-ninth-update-march-till-august-2019.html
>>>>
>>>> Sorry it took a while since the previous post, a lot of things were
>>>> happening and I also decided to postpone writing one several times to
>>>> instead write more code / software, but now feels like a good moment.
>>>>
>>>> If you've been considering helping out but haven't yet, now might be a
>>>> great time to dive in and join in on the fun? :-)
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
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>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 09:12:45 +0100
>>> From: Merlijn Wajer <merlijn@???>
>>> To: maemo-leste@???
>>> Subject: Re: [maemo-leste] Maemo-Leste Digest, Vol 9, Issue 7
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>>> Hi Matteo,
>>>
>>> On 26/11/2019 16:41, Matteo Bonicolini wrote:
>>>> ======TOPIC OPHONO INTEGRATION======
>>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>> my phone was broken and I rebuy it with some time to wait. We was
>>>> agree to assign ophono integration as task for my startup in the
>>>> distro.
>>>
>>> Sorry to hear it broke, and glad to hear you have a new one now.
>>>
>>>> Now I see that someone started the development. I read the github and
>>>> the ninth update.
>>>
>>> I will try to follow up with another update soon.
>>>
>>>> Can I follow and help with the ophono integration and the sms GUI?
>>>
>>> We definitely need a UI for phone calls, SMS and contacts. I think I
>>> have the libgofono stuff handled - I at least need to clean up the code
>>> a bit more before it makes sense for others to dive in.
>>>
>>> We should probably start making a plan for this soon. We can try to
>>> reverse-engineer parts of existing Maemo in an attempt to make the UI
>>> the same (this is complicated by the fact that some parts require html
>>> engine, like SMS), but could be worth it.
>>>
>>> Alternatively, we can try to look at existing applications for dialer
>>> (phone), sms and contacts management. Maybe UBPorts has something usable.
>>>
>>> We could also create something ourselves.
>>>
>>> Freemangordon probably has opinions on this, too.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Merlijn
>>>
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 22:29:26 +0100
>> From: Pavel Machek <pavel@???>
>> To: Merlijn Wajer <merlijn@???>
>> Cc: maemo-leste@???
>> Subject: [maemo-leste] Phone UI was Re: Maemo-Leste Digest, Vol 9,
>> Issue 7
>> Message-ID: <20191127212926.GA20612@amd>
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>>
>> Hi!
>>
>>> > Now I see that someone started the development. I read the github and
>>> > the ninth update.
>>>
>>> I will try to follow up with another update soon.
>>>
>>> > Can I follow and help with the ophono integration and the sms GUI?
>>>
>>> We definitely need a UI for phone calls, SMS and contacts. I think I
>>> have the libgofono stuff handled - I at least need to clean up the code
>>> a bit more before it makes sense for others to dive in.
>>>
>>> We should probably start making a plan for this soon. We can try to
>>> reverse-engineer parts of existing Maemo in an attempt to make the UI
>>> the same (this is complicated by the fact that some parts require html
>>> engine, like SMS), but could be worth it.
>>>
>>> Alternatively, we can try to look at existing applications for dialer
>>> (phone), sms and contacts management. Maybe UBPorts has something
>>> usable.
>>
>> If you want something simple, there's Unicsy Demo project (and ofone
>> inside). https://github.com/pavelmachek/unicsy_demo/tree/master/ofone
>>
>> I started rewriting it to rust, (tui repository, rfone).
>>
>> If you want "real" contacts application, I suggest looking at Gnome
>> contacts. Purism people made it working on a phone, and it should be
>> mainlined.
>>
>> They also have a gui for doing phones. Phosh, iirc; but they use
>> different backend, so that's probably not applicable.
>>
>> I'd definitely suggest _not_ starting "yet another phone shell".
>>
>> One thing I thought about... should the sms go into "mailbox" format?
>> So that common mail clients can be used to access them, concurrent
>> access works, imap works, etc? [Unfortunately, details are tricky].
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Pavel
>> --
>> (english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek
>> (cesky, pictures)
>> http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blog.html
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 22:39:23 +0100
>> From: Pavel Machek <pavel@???>
>> To: Merlijn Wajer <merlijn@???>
>> Cc: maemo-leste@???
>> Subject: [maemo-leste] Library for ofono communication was Re:
>> Maemo-Leste Digest, Vol 9, Issue 7
>> Message-ID: <20191127213923.GC20612@amd>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>
>> Hi!
>>
>>> > Can I follow and help with the ophono integration and the sms GUI?
>>>
>>> We definitely need a UI for phone calls, SMS and contacts. I think I
>>> have the libgofono stuff handled - I at least need to clean up the code
>>> a bit more before it makes sense for others to dive in.
>>
>> libgofono... it would be nice to publish it somewhere. Not
>> neccessarily to dive in right now, but to see details like "what
>> language it is" etc...
>>
>> I tried something along those lines in Rust, but found out that mixing
>> Rust with Gtk+ is quite tricky.
>>
>> My Rust stuff is here:
>>
>> https://gitlab.com/tui/tui/tree/master/rfone
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Pavel
>> --
>> (english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek
>> (cesky, pictures)
>> http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blog.html
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 02:18:27 +0100
>> From: Merlijn Wajer <merlijn@???>
>> To: Pavel Machek <pavel@???>
>> Cc: maemo-leste@???
>> Subject: Re: [maemo-leste] Library for ofono communication was Re:
>> Maemo-Leste Digest, Vol 9, Issue 7
>> Message-ID: <6a234d9e-e0d6-d932-e5e7-b3c80c7fcb14@???>
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>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 27/11/2019 22:39, Pavel Machek wrote:
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>>>> Can I follow and help with the ophono integration and the sms GUI?
>>>>
>>>> We definitely need a UI for phone calls, SMS and contacts. I think I
>>>> have the libgofono stuff handled - I at least need to clean up the code
>>>> a bit more before it makes sense for others to dive in.
>>>
>>> libgofono... it would be nice to publish it somewhere. Not
>>> neccessarily to dive in right now, but to see details like "what
>>> language it is" etc...
>>
>> It's written by the Mer/Jolla folks, we have a repo with a few (to be
>> send for review) patches here:
>>
>> https://github.com/maemo-leste/libgofono
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Merlijn
>>
>>
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>> Message: 5
>> Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 03:58:45 +0100 (CET)
>> From: Merlijn Wajer <merlijn@???>
>> To: Matteo Bonicolini <bonkko@???>
>> Cc: maemo-leste@???
>> Subject: Re: [maemo-leste] Maemo-Leste Digest, Vol 10, Issue 1
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>> Hi Matteo,
>>
>> On Wed, 27 Nov 2019, Matteo Bonicolini wrote:
>>
>>> Yes.
>>> In my opinion we can make the full application from zero. If the
>>> library is ok there are no problem.
>>
>> We'll probably use telepathy as a backend. There is currently a GUI
>> client for it, called empathy, but it's not mobile ready (at all), but
>> it is features in some of news posts.
>> Telepathy also has an ofono plugin, and texts (and calls) should work with
>> that.
>>
>> Telepathy also does many of the things libpurple does - like IRC
>> accounts and other things.
>>
>> Maybe you can take a look at what Pavel recommends, I like the idea of
>> sharing code and if there is a readymade solution for contacts that we
>> can "hildonize", that could be interesting too.
>>
>> We might need to get the gtk3 port for hildon ready soon then, though.
>>
>>> For neo free runner there was
>>> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Category:Zhone_screenshots .
>>> It should a be an inspiration.
>>>
>>> With lib should be easy to make the stuff.
>>
>> I think that the dialer mostly needs to interface with telepathy.
>>
>>> Hildon is gtk and I think it is better to use gtk.
>>
>> Agreed.
>>>
>>> Also should be a good idea to integrate libpurple and other stuff for
>>> voip and anonymity
>>
>> I think Telepathy also does VOIP, I've tested that just a few days
>> ago.
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Merlijn
>>
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