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> 1. Re: Maemo-Leste Digest, Vol 10, Issue 1 (Matteo Bonicolini)
> 2. Phone UI was Re: Maemo-Leste Digest, Vol 9, Issue 7
> (Pavel Machek)
> 3. Library for ofono communication was Re: Maemo-Leste Digest,
> Vol 9, Issue 7 (Pavel Machek)
> 4. Re: Library for ofono communication was Re: Maemo-Leste
> Digest, Vol 9, Issue 7 (Merlijn Wajer)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 19:49:02 +0100
> From: Matteo Bonicolini <bonkko@???>
> To: maemo-leste@???
> Subject: Re: [maemo-leste] Maemo-Leste Digest, Vol 10, Issue 1
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> Yes.
> In my opinion we can make the full application from zero. If the
> library is ok there are no problem.
>
> For neo free runner there was
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Category:Zhone_screenshots .
> It should a be an inspiration.
>
> With lib should be easy to make the stuff.
>
> Hildon is gtk and I think it is better to use gtk.
>
> Also should be a good idea to integrate libpurple and other stuff for
> voip and anonymity
>
> Cheers,
> Matteo Bonicolini.
>
> On 11/27/19, maemo-leste-request@???
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2019 16:41:32 +0100
>> From: Matteo Bonicolini <bonkko@???>
>> To: maemo-leste@???
>> Subject: Re: [maemo-leste] Maemo-Leste Digest, Vol 9, Issue 7
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>> ======TOPIC OPHONO INTEGRATION======
>>
>> Hello,
>> my phone was broken and I rebuy it with some time to wait. We was
>> agree to assign ophono integration as task for my startup in the
>> distro.
>>
>> Now I see that someone started the development. I read the github and
>> the ninth update.
>>
>> Can I follow and help with the ophono integration and the sms GUI?
>>
>> On 8/25/19, maemo-leste-request@???
>> <maemo-leste-request@???> wrote:
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>>> 1. Maemo Leste - Ninth Update (March till August) 2019
>>> (Merlijn Wajer)
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>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2019 15:00:34 +0200
>>> From: Merlijn Wajer <merlijn@???>
>>> To: maemo-leste@???
>>> Subject: [maemo-leste] Maemo Leste - Ninth Update (March till August)
>>> 2019
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>>> Hey everyone,
>>>
>>> There's a new blog/update post out:
>>>
>>> https://maemo-leste.github.io/maemo-leste-ninth-update-march-till-august-2019.html
>>>
>>> Sorry it took a while since the previous post, a lot of things were
>>> happening and I also decided to postpone writing one several times to
>>> instead write more code / software, but now feels like a good moment.
>>>
>>> If you've been considering helping out but haven't yet, now might be a
>>> great time to dive in and join in on the fun? :-)
>>>
>>> Cheers,
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 09:12:45 +0100
>> From: Merlijn Wajer <merlijn@???>
>> To: maemo-leste@???
>> Subject: Re: [maemo-leste] Maemo-Leste Digest, Vol 9, Issue 7
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>> Hi Matteo,
>>
>> On 26/11/2019 16:41, Matteo Bonicolini wrote:
>>> ======TOPIC OPHONO INTEGRATION======
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>> my phone was broken and I rebuy it with some time to wait. We was
>>> agree to assign ophono integration as task for my startup in the
>>> distro.
>>
>> Sorry to hear it broke, and glad to hear you have a new one now.
>>
>>> Now I see that someone started the development. I read the github and
>>> the ninth update.
>>
>> I will try to follow up with another update soon.
>>
>>> Can I follow and help with the ophono integration and the sms GUI?
>>
>> We definitely need a UI for phone calls, SMS and contacts. I think I
>> have the libgofono stuff handled - I at least need to clean up the code
>> a bit more before it makes sense for others to dive in.
>>
>> We should probably start making a plan for this soon. We can try to
>> reverse-engineer parts of existing Maemo in an attempt to make the UI
>> the same (this is complicated by the fact that some parts require html
>> engine, like SMS), but could be worth it.
>>
>> Alternatively, we can try to look at existing applications for dialer
>> (phone), sms and contacts management. Maybe UBPorts has something usable.
>>
>> We could also create something ourselves.
>>
>> Freemangordon probably has opinions on this, too.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Merlijn
>>
>>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 22:29:26 +0100
> From: Pavel Machek <pavel@???>
> To: Merlijn Wajer <merlijn@???>
> Cc: maemo-leste@???
> Subject: [maemo-leste] Phone UI was Re: Maemo-Leste Digest, Vol 9,
> Issue 7
> Message-ID: <20191127212926.GA20612@amd>
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>
> Hi!
>
>> > Now I see that someone started the development. I read the github and
>> > the ninth update.
>>
>> I will try to follow up with another update soon.
>>
>> > Can I follow and help with the ophono integration and the sms GUI?
>>
>> We definitely need a UI for phone calls, SMS and contacts. I think I
>> have the libgofono stuff handled - I at least need to clean up the code
>> a bit more before it makes sense for others to dive in.
>>
>> We should probably start making a plan for this soon. We can try to
>> reverse-engineer parts of existing Maemo in an attempt to make the UI
>> the same (this is complicated by the fact that some parts require html
>> engine, like SMS), but could be worth it.
>>
>> Alternatively, we can try to look at existing applications for dialer
>> (phone), sms and contacts management. Maybe UBPorts has something
>> usable.
>
> If you want something simple, there's Unicsy Demo project (and ofone
> inside). https://github.com/pavelmachek/unicsy_demo/tree/master/ofone
>
> I started rewriting it to rust, (tui repository, rfone).
>
> If you want "real" contacts application, I suggest looking at Gnome
> contacts. Purism people made it working on a phone, and it should be
> mainlined.
>
> They also have a gui for doing phones. Phosh, iirc; but they use
> different backend, so that's probably not applicable.
>
> I'd definitely suggest _not_ starting "yet another phone shell".
>
> One thing I thought about... should the sms go into "mailbox" format?
> So that common mail clients can be used to access them, concurrent
> access works, imap works, etc? [Unfortunately, details are tricky].
>
> Best regards,
>
> Pavel
> --
> (english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek
> (cesky, pictures)
> http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blog.html
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 22:39:23 +0100
> From: Pavel Machek <pavel@???>
> To: Merlijn Wajer <merlijn@???>
> Cc: maemo-leste@???
> Subject: [maemo-leste] Library for ofono communication was Re:
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> Hi!
>
>> > Can I follow and help with the ophono integration and the sms GUI?
>>
>> We definitely need a UI for phone calls, SMS and contacts. I think I
>> have the libgofono stuff handled - I at least need to clean up the code
>> a bit more before it makes sense for others to dive in.
>
> libgofono... it would be nice to publish it somewhere. Not
> neccessarily to dive in right now, but to see details like "what
> language it is" etc...
>
> I tried something along those lines in Rust, but found out that mixing
> Rust with Gtk+ is quite tricky.
>
> My Rust stuff is here:
>
> https://gitlab.com/tui/tui/tree/master/rfone
>
> Best regards,
>
> Pavel
> --
> (english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek
> (cesky, pictures)
> http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blog.html
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 02:18:27 +0100
> From: Merlijn Wajer <merlijn@???>
> To: Pavel Machek <pavel@???>
> Cc: maemo-leste@???
> Subject: Re: [maemo-leste] Library for ofono communication was Re:
> Maemo-Leste Digest, Vol 9, Issue 7
> Message-ID: <6a234d9e-e0d6-d932-e5e7-b3c80c7fcb14@???>
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>
> Hi,
>
> On 27/11/2019 22:39, Pavel Machek wrote:
>> Hi!
>>
>>>> Can I follow and help with the ophono integration and the sms GUI?
>>>
>>> We definitely need a UI for phone calls, SMS and contacts. I think I
>>> have the libgofono stuff handled - I at least need to clean up the code
>>> a bit more before it makes sense for others to dive in.
>>
>> libgofono... it would be nice to publish it somewhere. Not
>> neccessarily to dive in right now, but to see details like "what
>> language it is" etc...
>
> It's written by the Mer/Jolla folks, we have a repo with a few (to be
> send for review) patches here:
>
> https://github.com/maemo-leste/libgofono
>
> Cheers,
> Merlijn
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 03:58:45 +0100 (CET)
> From: Merlijn Wajer <merlijn@???>
> To: Matteo Bonicolini <bonkko@???>
> Cc: maemo-leste@???
> Subject: Re: [maemo-leste] Maemo-Leste Digest, Vol 10, Issue 1
> Message-ID: <alpine.LNX.2.00.1911280353150.9344@???>
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>
> Hi Matteo,
>
> On Wed, 27 Nov 2019, Matteo Bonicolini wrote:
>
>> Yes.
>> In my opinion we can make the full application from zero. If the
>> library is ok there are no problem.
>
> We'll probably use telepathy as a backend. There is currently a GUI
> client for it, called empathy, but it's not mobile ready (at all), but
> it is features in some of news posts.
> Telepathy also has an ofono plugin, and texts (and calls) should work with
> that.
>
> Telepathy also does many of the things libpurple does - like IRC
> accounts and other things.
>
> Maybe you can take a look at what Pavel recommends, I like the idea of
> sharing code and if there is a readymade solution for contacts that we
> can "hildonize", that could be interesting too.
>
> We might need to get the gtk3 port for hildon ready soon then, though.
>
>> For neo free runner there was
>> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Category:Zhone_screenshots .
>> It should a be an inspiration.
>>
>> With lib should be easy to make the stuff.
>
> I think that the dialer mostly needs to interface with telepathy.
>
>> Hildon is gtk and I think it is better to use gtk.
>
> Agreed.
>>
>> Also should be a good idea to integrate libpurple and other stuff for
>> voip and anonymity
>
> I think Telepathy also does VOIP, I've tested that just a few days
> ago.
>
> What do you think?
>
> Cheers,
> Merlijn
>
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