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Author: Martin Steigerwald
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Subject: Re: [devuan-dev] sysvinit in Debian and upstream resources (was: Fwd: Re: Debian Buster release to partially drop non-systemd support)
Martin Steigerwald - 16.10.18, 09:24:
> Just for reference here as well my summary about resources for
> sysvinit package in Debian.


I have one recent addition:

http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/debian-init-diversity

is a new list created by Matthew Vernon in order to have the discussion
on how to cooperate in order to keep init diversity in Debian.

As an addition: Ian Jackson who also mentioned creating this list
offered to sponsor uploads to sysvinit.

I think both are a good starting points to actually get work done, so I
am adding this information here.

The list has a broader scope than sysvinit-devel mailing list in Debian.
So for example in Debian some people work on a elogind package to and I
brought them already in contact with the maintainer of the package in
Devuan.

This is a opportunity to not only keep sysvinit in Debian, but also
lessen the forking work on other packages.

> I suggest to write to sysvinit-devel mailinglist in Debian.
>
> https://alioth-lists.debian.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-sysvinit-> devel
>
> In addition for reference here also the reference to an upstream
> repository:
>
> http://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/sysvinit
> http://git.savannah.nongnu.org/cgit/sysvinit.git
>
> Actually is appears to be quite active to me, updated by mainly one
> developer: Jesse Smith.
>
> http://git.savannah.nongnu.org/cgit/sysvinit.git/log/
>
> Just to have it archived all in one place on this list.
>
> Thanks,
> Martin
>
> ---------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht ----------
>
> Betreff: Re: Debian Buster release to partially drop non-systemd
> support Datum: Dienstag, 16. Oktober 2018, 09:17:26 CEST
> Von: Martin Steigerwald <martin@???>
> An: debian-devel@???
> Kopie: KatolaZ <katolaz@???>, Ian Jackson
> <ijackson@???>
>
> Ian, cc'ing you to make you aware of this discussion, in case you
> aren't, and give you an opportunity to comment on your aim to adopt
> sysvinit package from some time ago.
>
> KatolaZ, Ian feel free to drop Cc's again, I won't be offended :)
>
> Alessio Treglia - 16.10.18, 07:31:
> > On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 9:51 PM Enzo Nicosia <katolaz@???>
> >
> > wrote:
> > > Please, just tell us who we should contact (current/last
> > > maintainer?) to start working on that.
> >
> > That's easy [1].
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > [1]
> > https://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=pkg-sysvinit-devel@lists.a
> > l
> > ioth.debian.org
>
> In addition to that
>
> https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/sysvinit
>
> gives a good overview of the state of the package.
>
> Including the request for adoption that has been already mentioned in
> the thread:
>
> RFA: sysvinit -- System-V-like init utilities - transitional package
> https://bugs.debian.org/811377
>
> (I reported the spam in that bug already.)
>
> Also the changelog gives an impression who worked last on the
> packages:
>
> https://tracker.debian.org/media/packages/s/sysvinit/
> changelog-2.88dsf-59.11
>
> Michael Biebl maintains Systemd and related packages and uploaded the
> last version mainly to activate some changes that benefit Systemd. Ian
> Jackson was the last one aiming at adopting the package, but
> apparently did not work on it afterwards anymore:
>
> Re: Bug#811377: fixed in sysvinit 2.88dsf-59.9
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=811377#104
>
> To me it looks like that the package is ready for adoption, as Petter
> also already mentioned:
>
> Re: Debian Buster release to partially drop non-systemd support
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2018/10/msg00171.html
>
> For adopting it, one would need to become at least a Debian
> maintainer, or… have someone who sponsors uploads. For an easy start
> I think the sponsoring can work out nicely, but for a permanent
> solution its good to be allowed to upload new versions.
>
> I'd suggest to write to sysvinit-devel mailinglist for any further
> coordination as I bet the larger audience of debian-devel is not
> really needed or helpful for that:
>
> https://alioth-lists.debian.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-sysvinit-> devel
>
> Thanks,
> -------------------------------------------------------------



--
Martin