Hmmm . . .

Is this an olive branch? Or a trojan on the path to some sort of
"embrace, extend, extinguish" assimilation. Or is it a simple lack of
awareness of the major differences that make Devuan a bit more than a
derivative. The fact that there is a link to MXLinux points to some
confusion but perhaps could just be an editing error if this offer was
also being presented to other "derivatives". >>>In any case, the mention
of MXLinux in association with Devuan needs to be clarified asap.<<<

Other thoughts . . . there would perhaps be an advantage of higher
visibility but a disadvantage of being in Debian's "galaxy" (pun
intended). Careful attention to the fine print is in order. We would
need to know that the relationship is not locked in without an exit
plan. I just had a quick look at the wiki links below and find them
pretty overwhelming and unsurprisingly, Debian-centric. Do we have the
(wo)man power to deal with all that bureaucratic nonsense? As I scanned
those pages, I felt the noose tightening . . .

Unfortunately, I really don't have the brain space to take on monitoring
this issue. After my past dealings with Debian, I am skeptical that this
would be in Devuan's best interest.

golinux


On 2018-09-30 03:20, Jaromil wrote:
> dear devs,
>
> we receive this from a Debian volunteer
>
> do we want to enter the census as a 'derivative'?
>
> I disagree with this, since I think we are not, but ask you here
> nevertheless
>
> also there is a strange detail in this mail, which was sent in HTML
> and rendered by my mail client using w3m: the first link to devuan.org
> has a href pointing to mxlinux.org. I really hope they won't include
> us by mistake with a wrong link now.
>
> curious about your opinion. the origin of the mail is left out for
> privacy (is a personal gmail account for some reason)
>
> ----- Forwarded message -----
>
> Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2018 13:17:12 +0530
> To: onelove@???
> Cc: debian-derivatives@???
> Subject: Devuan: invitation to join the Debian derivatives census
>

>    Hi,
>    I note that you are producing a software distribution based on 
> Debian.

>

>    [1]https://devuan.org/
>    [2]https://www.debian.org/

>

>    I would like to invite you to add your distribution to the Debian
>    derivatives census, which attempts to gather detailed information
>    about Debian derivatives that is useful to Debian, for integration 
> of
>    that information into Debian infrastructure and for the development 
> of
>    relationships between Debian and our derivatives. In addition we 
> will
>    be doing some QA on the data that you enter into the census.

>

>    [3]https://wiki.debian.org/Derivatives/Census
>    [4]https://wiki.debian.org/Derivatives/Integration
>    [5]https://wiki.debian.org/Derivatives/CensusQA

>

>    Please direct any questions you have to the derivatives list or IRC
>    channel. We strongly encourage you to join both of these.

>

>    [6]https://lists.debian.org/debian-derivatives
>    ircs://[7]irc.oftc.net/debian-derivatives
>    Thanks

>
> References
>

>    Visible links
>    1. https://mxlinux.org/
>    2. https://www.debian.org/
>    3. https://wiki.debian.org/Derivatives/Census
>    4. https://wiki.debian.org/Derivatives/Integration
>    5. https://wiki.debian.org/Derivatives/CensusQA
>    6. https://lists.debian.org/debian-derivatives
>    7. http://irc.oftc.net/debian-derivatives

>
> ----- End forwarded message -----
>
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