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Autore: Ralph Ronnquist
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To: devuan developers internal list
Oggetto: Re: [devuan-dev] [Fwd] Devuan: invitation to join the Debian derivatives census
Well, the semantic discussion could be interesting; is Devuan an
underling, a side-kick or a sibling to Debian, or something else? Many
of us, or you rather, have a history wrt Debian, so I wouldn't dare to
voice any opinion (even if I had one) :)

But, what came first to my mind was rather whether or not there is an
advantage for Devuan partaking in the initiative. And, in a short, I
think not.

Joining it would imply a fair amount of ongoing effort, and then also
"give away" some control of how Devaun is presented with respect to
Debian; there is a "QA procedure" that makes demands on the
"derivatives" -- minor demands for now, of course.

This would be done in order to make "Devuan" appear in that pool of
"derivatives", to possibly be seen by some who are pondering Debian
offshoots/relatives (via that pool). I don't think those negatives are
balanced by that possible advantage.

On the other hand, perhaps there is an advantage for the Linux community
as a whole to have such a database? And then, does that balance out the
implied negatives? Hmm, I think I need some few more days to lick on
that one..

Ralph.

Jaromil wrote on 30/09/18 18:20:
>
> dear devs,
>
> we receive this from a Debian volunteer
>
> do we want to enter the census as a 'derivative'?
>
> I disagree with this, since I think we are not, but ask you here nevertheless
>
> also there is a strange detail in this mail, which was sent in HTML
> and rendered by my mail client using w3m: the first link to devuan.org
> has a href pointing to mxlinux.org. I really hope they won't include
> us by mistake with a wrong link now.
>
> curious about your opinion. the origin of the mail is left out for
> privacy (is a personal gmail account for some reason)
>
> ----- Forwarded message -----
>
> Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2018 13:17:12 +0530
> To: onelove@???
> Cc: debian-derivatives@???
> Subject: Devuan: invitation to join the Debian derivatives census
>
>    Hi,
>    I note that you are producing a software distribution based on Debian.

>
>    [1]https://devuan.org/
>    [2]https://www.debian.org/

>
>    I would like to invite you to add your distribution to the Debian
>    derivatives census, which attempts to gather detailed information
>    about Debian derivatives that is useful to Debian, for integration of
>    that information into Debian infrastructure and for the development of
>    relationships between Debian and our derivatives. In addition we will
>    be doing some QA on the data that you enter into the census.

>
>    [3]https://wiki.debian.org/Derivatives/Census
>    [4]https://wiki.debian.org/Derivatives/Integration
>    [5]https://wiki.debian.org/Derivatives/CensusQA

>
>    Please direct any questions you have to the derivatives list or IRC
>    channel. We strongly encourage you to join both of these.

>
>    [6]https://lists.debian.org/debian-derivatives
>    ircs://[7]irc.oftc.net/debian-derivatives
>    Thanks

>
> References
>
>    Visible links
>    1. https://mxlinux.org/
>    2. https://www.debian.org/
>    3. https://wiki.debian.org/Derivatives/Census
>    4. https://wiki.debian.org/Derivatives/Integration
>    5. https://wiki.debian.org/Derivatives/CensusQA
>    6. https://lists.debian.org/debian-derivatives
>    7. http://irc.oftc.net/debian-derivatives

>
> ----- End forwarded message -----
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