Jimmy Johnson - 09.07.18, 12:00:
> On 07/09/2018 02:53 AM, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> > Hi Katola.
> >
> > KatolaZ - 09.07.18, 09:51:
> >> On Sun, Jul 08, 2018 at 03:52:48PM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> >>> On 07/08/2018 02:49 PM, info at smallinnovations dot nl wrote:
> >>>> On 08-07-18 23:32, aitor_czr wrote:
> >>>>> Hi Jimmy,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> El 08/07/18 a las 23:24, Jimmy Johnson escribió:
> >>>>>> Thoughts? Volunteers?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I also would like to see devuan including its own kernel. I can
> >>>>> help
> >>>>> on packaging stuff.
> >>>>>

> >>>>>     Aitor.

> >>>>
> >>>> I am not a kernel guy so maybe i am asking a stupid question; but
> >>>> what other parts besides the official kernel from kernel.org
> >>>> would you install? Or leave out?
> >>>
> >>> I don't think Linus is trying to hide anything, he just can't talk
> >>> about a backdoor and will deny a backdoor if you ask him about
> >>> one.
> >>>
> >>> Something I haven't done but maybe a kernel source package can be
> >>> opened to expose what is in there? Something way over my head.
> >>> Anybody friends with Klaus Knopper? Or has other sources for help?
> >>> Maybe someone from Puppy Linux?
> >>
> >> The only problem with this theory is that Linus has not been the
> >> only
> >> developer of the Linux kernel at least since September 1991.
> >> Nowadays
> >> the Linux kernel has thousands of developers. If such a "backdoor"
> >> existed, we would know about it, as we knew about the Spectre and
> >> Meltdown vulnerabilities. You simply can't silence everybody, even
> >> if
> >> you are the NSA.
> >>
> >> Literally anybody can get the sources of the Linux kernel and read
> >> through it. So I guess your fears are somehow unjustified...
> >
> > I agree with that.
> >
> > This discussion seems bordering on conspiracy theories. Those claim
> > that something might be true and sow fear, uncertainty and doubt.
> > Some parts of conspiracy theories may turn out to have been true,
> > like for example all the spying the NSA and other secret agencies
> > are doing. But I see no benefit in fearing something I have seen no
> > proof of.
> >
> > Anyone ever saw any proof that such a backdoor exists within the
> > Linux kernel source? I haven´t.
> >
> > Aside from that, I´d be more vary about the firmware in PCs. The
> > closed- source binary blobs almost everyone is using who is using a
> > computer these days.
> >
> > I do not think this discussion is helpful. There may be reasons for
> > an own kernel, but IMO this is no reason.
>
> Martin you are active with both KDE and Debian Development, I would
> not expect you to be of much help, so pleas stay out of the way.

I wanted to write a longer reply, but there is no point, for as long as
you decide that I am or KatolaZ or the Linux kernel are against you.

But in case you´d like to check whether I contributed something to a
Debian package *specifically* for the aim of Devuan, just check the
changelog of the fio package. Beware, there may be facts inside.

--
Martin