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Author: Didier Kryn
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To: dng
Subject: Re: [DNG] systemd and wlan0 interface problem
Le 04/07/2018 à 09:54, Jimmy Johnson a écrit :
> On 07/03/2018 11:04 PM, Didier Kryn wrote:
>> Le 04/07/2018 à 05:10, Jimmy Johnson a écrit :
>>> On 07/03/2018 09:35 AM, Didier Kryn wrote:
>>>> Le 02/07/2018 à 10:49, Jimmy Johnson a écrit :
>>>>> There is another option I do not see mentioned in this thread and
>>>>> that is to purge network manager and use wicd exclusively, I have
>>>>> done that and it works swell.
>>>>
>>>>      Better purge both.
>>>>
>>>>          Didier
>>>
>>>
>>> Why?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>
>>      As already said, they are useless - provided network-tools is
>> installed and interfaces correctly configured - and these two network
>> managers tend to configure/deconfigure the network interfaces in a
>> way which isn't the one you want. They essentially mess up the
>> configuration.
>>
>>          Didier
>
> It sounds like you are talking about network manager.  I don't believe
> wicd has the traits you are talking about.  As for me it's handy to
> connect and disconnect, mostly disconnect while using multimedia. I've
> never heard of wicd doing anything wrong, it's certainly not part of
> systemd or married to systemd in any way.
>
> Thanks,


    Let me explain in a different way what I have understood - and I
may be wrong on wicd because I remove it immediately after every
install, as well as I used to do with network-manager.

    There are 4 ways to configure your network:

    1) Invoke the ip command and wpa_supplicant by hand all the time,
or write your own scripts

    2) the good old net-tools, which provides ifupdown, the interfaces
file and all the ready-made scripts

    3) network-manager, which is a replacement for the previous,
decides of everything, and cannot be configured.

    4) wicd, that is essentially the same logic as network-manager,
rewritten and with another name.

    They cannot live all three together: they continuously fight
against each other.

    net-tools gives you full power; it can be configured in great
detail. At the cost of reading some docs, of course. network-manager and
wicd do everything for you, but don't complain if it's not what you want.

    And, to tell everything, if you need dynamic interfaces
configuration/deconfiguration, you also need ifplugd or netplug (again,
don't install both). I think netplug must be configured by editing the
config file, while ifplugd is configured by running dpkg-reconfigure.

            Didier