On Sat, 19 May 2018 16:57:07 +0200, Alessandro wrote in message
<20180519165707.504d5c33@???>:

> On Sat, 19 May 2018 at 16:42:49 +0200
> Arnt Karlsen <arnt@???> wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 19 May 2018 04:25:53 +0200, Alessandro wrote in message
> > <20180519042553.7ba51256@???>:
> >
> >>> {headdesk}
> >>>

> >>> I really don't think it's that difficult to understand that
> >>> avoiding outsourcing in no way precludes appropriate fallbacks
> >>> and measures to eliminate SPoFs.  I'm frankly quite puzzled that
> >>> my mentioning (as an example) GitLab elicited the comment 'This
> >>> wouldn't have helped [because] you need redundancy' -- when I
> >>> nowhere suggested eschewing redundancy and when that open source
> >>> project has a mountain of documentation on that very subject.
> >>> And I'm puzzled a second time to see you ignore my having just
> >>> pointed that out, as if I hadn't.      

> >>

> >>   You need redundancy in repository's admins, not on
> >> infrastructure.    

> >
> > ..you need both, IME. 17 years ago, I was the final lawful
> > webmaster at fmb.no, our domain docs were stolen by
> > https://www.frp.no/ people.
>
> Humm, how can infrastructure redundancy protect against document
> stealth?

..theft, not stealth. Google those 2. ;o)

> Infrastructure redundancy protects you against hardware
> failure, not legal or bureaucratic events.

..that's your narrow view. Real infrastructure redundancy means
setting up at least 2 fully independent web sites with at least
2 competing independent web hotels mirroring each other, and feed
them content over rsync, scp etc from a master server on e.g. a
cell phone.


..in our case, problem was time and funding to litigate the control
of such legal or bureaucratic events. 4 hours before the "primary"
ballot filing deadline, we were told we needed "5000 signatures" to
file, truth is 500, we mobilized and got over 12,000 approved, despite
having inch thick piles of signature sheets stolen from the 2 major
Statoil gas stations south of Stavanger on Feb 28'th 2001.

..from then on, it was all sabotage, I took over as webmaster in late
July/early August, and without said infrastructure control, we wound
up with 688 votes.


--
..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen
...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry...
Scenarios always come in sets of three:
best case, worst case, and just in case.