> Meet here: https://vdc.dyne.org/devuan
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>     name like this: (whoever) whatever . . .

> ### Old Business
>   * ACTION: @everybody propose viable solutions for the CDN setup for
>     package mirrors
>     * (parazyd) discuss on the email thread
>     * atm we have several offers for mirrors
>     * 6 package mirrors are active at the moment
>     * there are two options:
>       * ACTION:  rebuild jessie ISOs (point release 1.1?) (with updated
>         packages (~130 out of date (mostly jessie-security) packages))
>         and including new devuan-keyring
>         * (msi) When doing that, please consider
>           http://bugs.devuan.org/db/11/117.html and
>           http://bugs.devuan.org/db/15/158.html
>   * ACTION: investigate if devuan-cd should be still used or revert
>     to barebone d-i
>     https://git.devuan.org/devuan-packages/debian-cd/
>     * (Evilham) this would imply re-building the live isos
>       (fsmithred), arm images (parazyd) and minimal-live (KatolaZ)
>       besides regular installer (jaromil/Centurion_Dan)
>     * (fsmithred) No problem with making new live isos. Installer
>       has some corrections and should be updated in the isos.
>     * (rejected) leaving isos as is: keeping auto.mirror a CNAME for
>       packages.do
>   * ACTION: @everybody make proposals for a suitable backup
>     strategy, on to it. top of instance redundancy
>     * utilize the mailinglist for this
>     * NEEDS MORE DISCUSSION (but also an immediate plan)
>   * ACTION: @everybody study alternatives to dak (KatolaZ: maybe try

>     aptly)
>   * ACTION: @everybody test all possible install/update/upgrade (IN
>     PROCESS) paths involving ASCII and document
>     * Example of upgrade paths:
>       * Fresh ASCII install
>       * Debian/Jessie -> Devuan/ASCII
>       * Devuan/Jessie -> Devuan/ASCII
>       * Debian/Stretch -> Devuan/ASCII
>     * (fsmithred) Which display manager for fresh ascii install? Fix
>       slim or change deps in task-xfce-desktop.
>   * ACTION: We need to discuss how we will attend the transitional
>     udev packages. Talk to parazyd for more info.
>     * (discuss this meeting)
>       * transitional packages (only a control file/empty packages)
>       * decision: let's make an entire package with a debian dir on
>         git.do/devuan-packages/udev (will be done by parazyd and
>         gnu_srs)
>     * (KatolaZ): this is done, right?
>   * ACTION: base-files were updated by Evilham. Needs review.
>     * (KatolaZ) Update: I managed to rebuild the package: it's in
>       ascii-proposed now -- we just need to move it to ascii)
>     * (Evilham) made the discussed motd/uname change since it's
>       minor and nothing was said against it.
>   * ACTION: https://bugs.devuan.org/db/78/78.html
>     * For beowulf+: make a patch for Debian: (add vendor file)
>     * For ascii: fork with the vendor file added
>     * consider having deb.devuan.org as the round-robin instead of
>       auto.mirror to support all the mirors immediately in ascii
>   * ACTION: build util-linux for ascii (KatolaZ, parazyd, Evilham,
>     Centurion_Dan)
>     * (parazyd): sysvinit needs updating to a version that is in
>       stretch this will ideally avoid the circuar dependency, or we
>       see what's next

> #### Dan's Actions
>   * ACTION: @CenturionDan will have a look at building util-linux for
>     ascii (the build is stuck due to circular deps) -- Dan has past
>     experience on that (+ anyone else, please look into this ASAP;
>     ~parazyd)
>     * (gnu_srs) @CenturionDan: Please try to find the time to fix the
>       build
>     * No progress for seven weeks
>       (https://git.devuan.org/devuan-packages/util-linux/activity).
>     * this can be blocking (e)udev
>       * (gnu_srs) No, it is related to openrc
>   * ACTION: more people need access to dak and knowledge about its
>     internals. we are not able to delete debs from repos, nor do any
>     kind of other operations.
>     * dak is also still undocumented in infrastructure_doc
>   * ACTION: ascii-proposed and experimental don't offer deb-src
>     * @Centurion_Dan: Please have a look.
>       * (unknown) *** this is an amprolla issue *** use packagemaster
>   * ACTION: delete our forked openssh packages from the repositories
>     * Not only ssh, also openvpn and other packages. (cups comes to
>       mind also)
>     * SOLUTION: access to packages is there, from user dak using dak
>       commands
>   * Proposed ACTION: d1dev Webinar Series (wishlist)
>     * Subject: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Debian
>       Installer
>     * Presenter: CenturionDan
>     * Time/date/location TBA

> #### Actions in Process
>   * ACTION: @everybody complete the proposed ASCII ROADMAP (IN PROCESS)
>   * ACTION there is an instance on ganeti for a newer files.devuan.org
>     (KatolaZ) jaromil to transfer them, we need to copy the nginx setup
>     * ACTION: give access to jaromil
>     * ACTION: setup nginx there
>     * ACTION: increase files.devuan.org FS space
>   * ACTION: @parazyd  MATE ~~and Cinnamon~~ repos by Antofox
>     * cinnamon will be attended once MATE is done
>     * Packages have now been moved to devuan-packages, and will be built
>       in due time. (from ascii roadmap)
>   * ACTION: @KatolaZ GitLab updates
>     * see what to do with gitlab updates
>       * (golinux) Discuss after ascii gets out the door
>   * ACTION: (Evilham) Trying to straighten up devuan-baseconf:
>     https://git.devuan.org/evilham/devuan-baseconf/commits/suites/unstable
>     * Delete suites/jessie-proposed as that is behind suites/jessie
>     * suites/jessie contains what is currently in suites/jessie
>     * New version would be 6.5 in unstable, 6.5+devuan1 in
>       jessie-proposed and 6.5+devuan2 in ascii
>     * Related bugs:
>       * https://bugs.devuan.org/db/12/128.html
>       * https://bugs.devuan.org/db/13/131.html

> #### Ongoing Actions
>   * (KatolaZ) add documentation to the configuration of pkgmaster
>     (mirror-admin)

> #### Completed Actions
>   * (KatolaZ) set up the second new server as soon as it is ordered -
>     Jaromil!
>     * DONE: rrq and katolaz have access
>   * ACTION: https://bugs.devuan.org/db/12/124.html
>     * Jaromil or Centurion Dan have root on packages.do
>     * The nginx config on pkgmaster can be used to close this bug.
>       * SOLVED

> #### msi
>   * Please have a look at
>     https://friendsofdevuan.org/doku.php/devuan_doc:start for the state
>     of the draft for Devuan's documentation
>     * one important thing missing there: developers' documentation
>     * we need to decide on how to fit that in
>       * suggestions at:

>   * blinkdog uses scripts for formatting pad notes for the wiki and
>     the mailing list. To make sure those notes get into the wiki and
>     to the list quickly, we've discussed the idea of putting up a
>     website running these scripts, so anyone could do the conversions.
>     Currently, these scripts are written in CoffeeScript, which has
>     some advantages. The downside is: You won't be able to use them in
>     a browser that doesn't support JavaScript (e.g. w3m).

> #### blinkdog
>   * Meet notes added to the Wiki
>     *
> https://friendsofdevuan.org/doku.php/community:development:devuan-dev_meet_notes:2017:november_22_2017

>   * Meet notes sent to the Mailing List
>     *
> https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20171127.235333.e74e572a.en.html
>     * Sorry about the delay; I was on a programming bender. :-)
>   * vivus talked to me after the meet  last week (and I think golinux on
>     the 28th?) about maintaining packages for Devuan:

>     <vivus> Does Devuan need any volunteers for package maintenance?
>     <blinkdog> which packages would you like to maintain vivus?
>     <vivus> blinkdog: anything Python and I can assist

>   * (Evilham) pkg maintaining: YES.
>     * Python-specific: from the looks of it, not atm. Maybe some RFP
>       over Debian?
>   * msi had a great suggestion about embedding the wikify/listify
>     scripts into a web page so that anybody can cut/paste.
>     * Evilham: Are you willing to host such a page if I create it?
>       * (Evilham): Yes :)
>   * Anybody use Pidgin for messaging? Specifically with Off The
>     Record (OTR)?
>     * I've registered a nick `blinkdog_otr` on freenode; feel free
>       to add me.
>     * B8A6F401 ... C135D683
>   * Slow/No Progress on these items, but they are still on my list
>     * init-script-checker-bot
>     * sane group and permission structure for wiki
>   * Happy Birthday Devuan! (November, 27, 2014)
>     * Is there a press release?

> #### fsmithred
>   * ascii desktop-live isos work (with a little nudge)
>     * Remove alsa-base from libdevuansdk/config  <-- N.B parazyd
>     * desktop-base 0.99 in ascii does grub theme correctly (old purpy)
>     * Add grub-common and grub2-common to blend config, or grub package
>       does not install.
>     * There will be one iso for uefi and bios in amd64.
>       * (latest cli installer does the right thing.)
>     * Other things I need to do:
>       * Get fontsnaps package into repo.
>       * Update refractainstaller and refractasnapshot packages for ascii
>       * Learn to love d-i. (Later, I guess.)

> #### golinux
>   * Making progress on the theming:
>     https://transfer.sh/cobFy/ascii_darker.png Which is a better
>     filename? Clearlooks-Phenix-Ascii or Clearlooks-Phenix-Purpydark?
>     First one is shorter . . . This one is a little lighter:
>     https://transfer.sh/XUaNU/ascii_bestest.png
>   * Discourse . . . Today I had an email from a local user.  Not a power
>     user by any means - he edited sources.list with Libre Office!
>     Anyway, he found this post
>     https://talk.devuan.org/t/upgrading-devuan-jessie-to-ascii/363 and
>     things are not quite working right for him.  Of course pkgmaster
>     didn't exist back then, the landscape is constantly changing and he
>     likely did something silly.  But still I'm concerned that some of
>     the posts there if not already out-dated will quickly become so.
>     Would be nice if a message could be posted there that the site is
>     for archival use only.

> ### Evilham
>   * Swamped working ahead to prepare for the weekend at Ungleich, prob.
>     will be able to work on Devuan all weekend :).
>   * Will prioritise the bot ideas, since it's a hackathon :-p.
>   * Have been thinking about apt-transport-ipfs <-- https://ipfs.io/ may
>     be doable!

> #### New Actions
>   * ACTION: @jaromil give katolaz access to the current dak installation
>   * ACTION: @jaromil give evilham and katolaz access to the new vpn
>     gateway
>   * ACTION: give access katolaz/parazyd to packages.devuan.org (to close
>     bug #124)
>   * ACTION: @jaromil give access to discourse for evilham
>   * ACTION: @KatolaZ / @jaromil check on dak why there is no binary-all
>     under ascii-proposed
>   * new server online, for a new ganeti node setup
>     * rrq and katolaz and jrml have accces for start
>     * ip: 37.59.56.43 - we need a name! napier.devuan.org! (pls update
>       the DNS) DONE!
>   * choosemirror package responsible to choose the mirrors by the
>     installer this is the point to interact about the repo update
>     * deb.devuan.org <- new cdn / auto.mirror link
>   * DONE ACTION: create a dns entry A record to same ip of pkgmaster for
>     now (deb.devuan.org) (DONE)
>   * ACTION: Update website instructions re: repositories + sources.list
>   * ACTION: (KatolaZ) put list of mirrors *somewhere* for Evilham to
>     pull it
>     *(Evilham) this can be GL, a website, on the mirrors, ... :) doesn't
>       matter
>   * ACTION: put the list of package mirrors  (on the webpage
>   * DONE ACTION: get certs for deb.devuan.org (KatolaZ)
>   * ACTION: SPRINT ON 15-16-17 DECEMBER
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