The project's directing team must certainly be formed by people who
are very knowledgeable and experienced in several fields of computer
use. Selecting people with expertise in different fields, in my
opinion, is preferable. Devuan should concentrate on continuing to
deliver init freedom, therefore someone should be selected to promote
that interest. Devuan must also cater for system administrators who
deal with servers, and at the end but with somewhat a lesser emphasis,
desktop users.

In short, my advice is to select formally trained and experienced
persons. I do not fit in that category as I learnt by studying on my
own reading textbooks without the great assistance of a teaching
institution.

On 10/10/2017, Jaromil <jaromil@???> wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Oct 2017, Daniel Reurich wrote:
>
>> > Therefore in light of current nominations I am in now favor of
>> > having a new 5 person leadership that drives Devuan forward and
>> > establishes priorities, composed by me and Daniel as remaining
>> > leaders and then Evilham, Ralph and Parazyd as new leaders, with a
>> > total 5 quorum 3 on votes when needed.
>
>> I'd be happy to have Ralph, and Evilham or fsmithred added to the
>> leadership, but prefer nextime to remain, provided he will weigh in
>> when a deciding opinion is sought.
>
> OK then lets agree on this and move forward please.
>
> This endless political discussion makes absolutely no sense to me,
> while its getting close to manipulation and misuse of language:
>
>> Jaromil, I hope we can reach a consensus that doesn't throw nextime
>> under the bus,
>
> I have never wanted to throw anyone under the bus, and nextime of all
> people! as I've mentioned already he told me he has no time for the
> project but would like to remain included. Now as others do here, I
> believe that:
>
> 1) 'leadership' should entail active inclusion
>
> 2) exclusion from this 'leadership' doesn't mean 'under the bus'
>
> knowing this, now lets just scale down this incredible dramatic tones
> and take an executive decision to move forward on the many tasks that
> parazyd is patiently posting here.
>
> yesterday we were trying to attend also with ralph and katolaz in a
> quiet and productive atmosphere on #devuan-infra, until you come to
> make ad-personam statements and start playing politics. Lets not make
> that happen again please!!!
>
> To conclude: I do believe either parazyd or katolaz should be included
> in the 5th as active leads because of their overview and team playing
> skills and I believe that your exclusion of active people connected to
> the Dyne community is purely political. But for the good of the Devuan
> project we should all be ready to get over this madness and move
> forward to call this a reached consensus, since this is really not a
> plot and we just need to get things done.
>
> If there are no more objections then please lets proceed to distribute
> root access to the 5 people in charge and lets work in peace and
> harmony towards ascii and towards strengthening the infrastructure
> which right now has some rather ridicolous vulnerabilities.
>
> ciao
>
>
>
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