On August 3, 2016 7:06:10 PM CDT, Daniel Reurich <daniel@???> wrote:
::So should we respond by saying that "We don't use or encourage the use
::of systemd-shim in Devuan.  Our approach is to rebuild the packages
::which in debian depend on systemd, without that dependency instead."
::
::Regards,
::    Daniel.
::
::
::
::On 04/08/16 09:12, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult wrote:
::> 
::> 
::> 
::> -------- Forwarded Message --------
::> Subject: Bug#832508: O: systemd-shim -- SysVinit shim for systemd
::> Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2016 09:12:02 +0000
::> Resent-From: Martin Pitt <mpitt@???>
::> Resent-To: debian-bugs-dist@???
::> Resent-CC: debian-devel@???, wnpp@???
::> Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2016 11:09:32 +0200
::> From: Martin Pitt <mpitt@???>
::> Reply-To: Martin Pitt <mpitt@???>, 832508@???
::> To: Debian BTS Submit <submit@???>
::> CC: Steve Langasek <vorlon@???>, Allison Ryan Lortie
::<desrt@???>
::> 
::> Package: wnpp
::> 
::> Neither Steve nor I still have any interest in maintaining
::> systemd-shim. Debian's default init system is systemd, Ubuntu
::supports
::> nothing else any more (and does not even have systemd-shim any
::more),
::> upstart is gone from both Debian and Ubuntu, so the only use case
::for
::> it right now is running Debian with SysVinit (in particular, on
::> non-Linux flavors).
::> 
::> So this should be picked up by someone who is interested in keeping
::SysV
::> init
::> support for desktops (i. e. which need logind or timedatectl) alive
::in
::> Debian.
::> There are currently no release-critical bugs and the package is
::working
::> reasonably well for main use cases, but there *are* a few bugs worth
::looking
::> into.
::> 
::> The upstream branch is currently at
::> <https://github.com/desrt/systemd-shim/>.
::> Allison isn't interested any more in this either, so I suggest that
::> the upstream repo gets mothballed and systemd-shim just becomes a
::> Debian-native package (I'm not aware of any other distro using it
::> anyway).
::> 
::> Note that systemd-shim currently uses cgmanager, which by itself is
::> obsolete [1].
::> 
::> Package description:
::> 
::>   Description: shim for systemd
::>    This package emulates the systemd function that are required to
::run
::>    the systemd helpers without using the init service
::> 
::> 
::> Martin
::> 
::> [1] https://s3hh.wordpress.com/2016/06/18/whither-cgmanager/
::> 
::
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