On 07/26/2016 12:28 PM, Brad Campbell wrote:
> On 26/07/16 10:27, Simon Walter wrote:
>
>> Is that really the case? Did the Debian leadership do a poll to find out
>> what their users wanted and who were their typical users?
>> Desktop/personal vs. server/professional?

yes/no?

>> Did they consult their package survey stats?

yes/no?

>>
>> I wasn't participating in those discussions. Maybe I should have. For
>> that, my friends, I am sorry. I am sorry to open a can of worms of
>> perhaps what is a sensitive issue with those of you who were involved in
>> the discussion and the exodus.
>>
>
> My gut feeling is that discussion is a waste of time.

I think you misunderstand. I want a yes or no answer. There is nothing
to discuss.

...

>
>> The reason I want to know about that is because if most Debian users are
>> desktop users, perhaps it's for the better that they went with systemd
>> as the default. It gives more credence to Devuan as the professional
>> choice.
>
> I'd rather just keep doing what we're doing and working on a credible
> alternative. The results will speak for themselves rather than more
> rattling of empty tins.

I don't want rattling. Rattling is annoying anywhere including on my
car. Does anyone know?

>
> Let's keep our eyes on the ball.
>
>

Of course. But I still want to know who to avoid and who can be trusted.
I am running their code on my systems and I don't have time to review it
all.

Are you saying that I should go scour mail archives? I just want to know
if it really was the case that Debian leadership used statistics to
decide on a systemd default - or not. If someone knows, please answer me
off list and perhaps be so kind as to provide a reference.

No discussion intended.

Thank you,

Simon