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On Sun, 7/24/16, aitor_czr <aitor_czr@???> wrote:
Subject: Re: [DNG] Gtk-theme for Devuan
To: "Go Linux" <golinux@???>, Dng@???
Date: Sunday, July 24, 2016, 5:28 AM
> Hi Golinux,
> On 07/24/2016 10:08 AM, <emninger@???> wrote:
>> Am Sat, 23 Jul 2016 19:32:34 +0000
>> schrieb Go Linux<golinux@???>:
>>
>>> >Vertex messes with the size and spacing on the panel icons too. And
>>> >the white inactive titlebar is just too gtk3ish for my taste. It
>>> >blends with the white BG on pages so I have a hard time finding where
>>> >the apps are on the page. I also see macish circle control buttons
>>> >on the pdf reader. UGH! And the PDF reader slider is about 1/8 inch
>>> >wide. That's got to be a gtk3 "improvement". There is also some
>>> >blue around check-box choices. And I just noticed that the input bar
>>> >on xchat is now dark green
>> As far as i see, i do not have those problems with vertex (but i use
>> vertex-dark!). May be that's due to the fact, i use JWM (?). For
>> sure, Vertex has problems with gtk3 but as far as i see they are less
>> than others (Clearlook for example!)
>>
>> I do not find Xchat, but in Hexchat, my input line is dark, with white
>> foreground (fonts) - as i would expect it, using a dark theme.
>
> The pdf reader slider's wide is inherent to the application. Surelly, it
> will happen also with other applications like file-roller and some
> pop-up windows. They are prefabricated tools (probably in PyGtk),
> developed for gnome. And their appearance is horrible independently of
> the used gtk-theme.
>
Not true! Just look at the screenies. The sliders and controls in Vertex and OSX-Breeze are completely different! So that has to be in the vertex/osx-breeze css.
>
> Nonetheless, there is no solution for that, just make it less ugly :(
>
Yes there is either rebuild vertex/osx-breeze or use a different theme.
>
> However, the circle control buttons can be customized :) They are
> located in gtk-3.0/assets:
>
> titlebutton.png
> titlebutton@???
> titlebutton-close-prelight.png
> titlebutton-close-prelight@???
> etc...
>
I want to start from a theme that works best for my use case. Of course each one of us has different preferences/needs. Clearlooks-Phenix-purpy has no rendering issues on my Devuan XFCE. I have not yet found another theme that doesn't have more problems than it's worth to try to fix.
I suspect emninger's issues are due to the WM he's using.
If anyone following this thread has an interest in the warts that I found for both Vertex and OSX-Breeze (I'm sure there are more) in about 5 minutes, you can download these screenies:
http://www.saynotogmos.org/ss/screenies.zip
Of course the landscape is always changing and undoubtedly the future will bring challenges that will be harder to work around (more SNS and unneeded complexity).
golinux
>
> Cheers,
>
> Aitor.
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Re: [DNG] Gtk-theme for Devuan
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