On Wed, 13 Jul 2016 11:14:18 -0700
Rick Moen <rick@???> wrote:

> Hullo, I'm the rat bastard who wrote
> http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Debian/openrc-conversion.html and is thus
> either ignorant or a very sadistic systemd hooligan.

See here's the thing. There's nothing wrong with
http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Debian/openrc-conversion.html . I wish I had
discovered/created that recipe before writing Manjaro Experiments. Tech
information is all good, and that's some excellent tech information.

The only problem comes in when you express the opinion (and fair
enough, you state it's your opinion) that forking Debian was <use
whichever expression you want>, without adding the vital words "for my
use case." Had you added those four words, there would be no problem.

For my use case, Devuan's a good thing. I like having an easy to
install Linux with apt-get, but because I don't trust the Devuan
project as far as I can throw my house, I refuse to depend on Debian,
at least in the long run. Devuan's a sans-systemd Debian fork fitting
my use case very well, and not fitting your use case especially well.

Why don't you just admit that for the ex-Debian person who liked Debian
until the systemd thing, but now no longer trusts Debian, Devuan fits
their use case well. I'm not asking *you* to use Devuan, or recommend
Devuan to your friends, or contribute to Devuan. Just admit that for
former Debian users who no longer trust Debian, and don't want to keep
undoing what Debian does in perpetuity, Devuan fits their use case.

SteveT

Steve Litt 
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