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Author: jamileh s.t.
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To: System undo crew
Subject: Re: [unSYSTEM] Turkish state is committing a genocide every day
penny gaff:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/adamcurtis/entries/5a7b18b5-0ec3-3d3e-a307-54820a7c6a59

On 25 June 2016 at 23:25, Penny Gaff <pennygaffgallery@???> wrote:

> Its a perplexing thread, im yet to discover what the kurdish seperatists
> have to offer that is a departure from already established hierarchical
> systems and forms of organization and why individuals like Graeber, who
> advocate anarchy, sympathise with them?
> On Jun 25, 2016 3:14 PM, "Pablo" <pablovidal85@???> wrote:
>
>> > And here I thought hacker/anarchist community would be filled with
>> smart people, capable of making a rational argument.
>>
>> If you confuse the tree with the forest you're the one not being smart. I
>> personally find this fight to impose an absolute truth fairly boring.
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 25, 2016 at 11:59 PM, Özer Tayiz <otayiz@???> wrote:
>>
>>> Is anyone here is paid by Ocalan, (or CIA or Mossad behind KCK/PKK) to
>>> spread terrorist separatist propaganda? Or are you supporting a fascist
>>> dictatorship out of good faith for baby killer Ocalan?
>>>
>>> I don't spread propaganda, but the truth as I see it.
>>>
>>> Feel free to challenge them if you disagree. Cite your own resources if
>>> you don't like mine.
>>>
>>> Do your own research about what happens to Kurds that disagree with
>>> Ocalan, or Kontra-Gel military hierarchy if you don't believe me.
>>>
>>> See out of all countries and territories, that Kurdish people have a
>>> significant population, which countries accept refugees, and which
>>> countries these refugees originate from.
>>>
>>> I don't see any Kurdish people from Turkey leaving Turkey. I see many
>>> Kurdish people from Iran, Iraq, Syria and others flocking to Turkey to seek
>>> refugee.
>>>
>>> Your attempt to shame me into a double-blind has simply failed.
>>>
>>> I support neither Erdogan nor Ocalan.
>>>
>>> They both run violent centralized hierarchies.
>>>
>>> What part of this do you guys refuse to understand?
>>>
>>> *lol* And here I thought hacker/anarchist community would be filled with
>>> smart people, capable of making a rational argument.
>>>
>>> All I see is personal insults, shaming language and ad hominems against
>>> me.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jun 25, 2016 at 4:44 PM, Tim Patrick <judoman589@???>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Özer Tayiz, does the Turkish Government pay you to spread their
>>>> propaganda or do you do it out of good faith for your corrupt imbicile
>>>> president Erdogan?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, June 25, 2016, Amir <amir@???> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Jesus, you're also denying the German holocaust?
>>>>>
>>>>> Özer Tayiz:
>>>>> > Because there is no German based evidence about
>>>>> > what really happened in Holocaust.
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