Hi,

The most irritating feature I often found time wasting and useless in
MS Windows was precisely having to reboot so many times. These new
systemd features remind me of the same nightmares.

Why code a system so unwittingly as to implement it in a way that is
too complicated and so cumbersome as to require a reboot for cleanup?
If my memory serves me right, even the kernel can be upgraded without
rebooting. This malady of seeing a reboot as a system clean up
procedure should have been eradicated rather than adopted.

Reading the link made me continue to see more corroborates that
systemd is coded in a way to break its competitors!

Shame!

Edward

On 07/06/2016, Steve Litt <slitt@???> wrote:
> On Mon, 6 Jun 2016 10:27:24 -1000
> Joel Roth <joelz@???> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Jun 06, 2016 at 08:48:12PM +0100, KatolaZ wrote:
>> > On Mon, Jun 06, 2016 at 09:23:22PM +0200, Klaus Hartnegg wrote:
>> > > All programmers please read this, and treat it as a list of
>> > > things not to do.
>> > >
>> > > https://lists.dns-oarc.net/pipermail/dns-operations/2016-June/014964.html
>> > >
>> > > Systemd manages to shoot itself in the foot, and in the elbow,
>> > > and trigger a timebomb, all with one single bullet.
>> >
>> > ....nevertheless, people keep jumping on the systemd wagon at a
>> > steady rate...strange, uh?
>>
>> Well, for users, it just comes with the OS. So nothing new
>> there.
>>
>> Distributions are another matter. I'm sure, as with the
>> Debian PRNG, the spooks put their heads together to find the
>> weak points where they can bend the open source movement to
>> their ends.
>>
>> One of the weak points is the attraction of end users for a
>> cocooned existence. That influences dist developers,
>> especially since many are the same youngsters enthralled
>> by all things Apple'ish.
>>
>> Another motivation often mentioned, of Red Hat, to increase
>> their consulting revenues.
>
> LOL, the URL has "pipermail" in it, reminding me how the Pied Piper led
> all the rats out of town and into the river, which reminds me how
> Lennart and the Redhats (my favorite band) are leading all the ignorants
> into what is essentially Windows2.
>
> But look at it this way: Lennart and the Redhats takeover failed. We
> still have choices of Devuan, Void, Funtoo, PC-BSD, Alpine, and several
> others, and those aren't going away. We humans remain in the town we
> love, and simply wave goodbye to the dumber members of our species.
> There is still choice.
>
> I don't think I'm alone when I say that if I had a crystal ball in
> September 2014, and saw the Linux world of June 2016, I would have
> jumped for joy. I expected things to turn out much, much worse. Lennart
> and the Redhats really did fail, and I have a feeling over the next 3
> years their world will slowly crumble.
>
> SteveT
>
> Steve Litt
> June 2016 featured book: Troubleshooting: Why Bother?
> http://www.troubleshooters.com/twb
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