Author: Sadegh Sadegh Date: To: Paweł Cholewiński, dng@lists.dyne.org Subject: Re: [DNG] sudo or su?
Hi,
I am very sory, I can't.
22.05.2016, 22:28, "Paweł Cholewiński" <pawelcholewinski@???>: > Hi, could You send screenshot?
>
> W dniu 22.05.2016 o 21:46, Sadegh Sadegh pisze:
>> Hi
>> I can't use terminal at my Devuan 1.0 beta lxde 64. I see this " Your name -sad- is not on system.
>> Streng. Please help me.
>>
>> 22.05.2016, 14:48, "KatolaZ" <katolaz@???>:
>>> On Sun, May 22, 2016 at 07:22:44AM -0300, Fernando M. Maresca wrote:
>>>> On Sun, May 22, 2016 at 11:08:47AM +0100, KatolaZ wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > My solution has always been to keep users and root *separate*,
>>>> > avoiding sudo altogether, and to ask myself to wear an appropriate
>>>> > "magic-shiny-hat-with-green-glitters-and-silver-triangle-on-top" (that
>>>> > I keep on my desk) whenever a part of myself has to become root and
>>>> > perform a configuration task. I know that whenever I am wearing the
>>>> > "magic-shiny-hat-with-green-glitters-and-silver-triangle-on-top" I
>>>> > have to put extra care on whatever I do, since a mistake could cause
>>>> > the regular users of my system (including the other part of myself) to
>>>> > suffer unnecessary pain and disruption.
>>>> >
>>>> > No automagic tool can save you from your own stupidity. You need a
>>>> > system administrator to manage your linux box, and investing a bit of
>>>> > time in training a part of yourself for that task, and 2$ in buying a
>>>> > "magic-shiny-hat-with-green-glitters-and-silver-triangle-on-top" is
>>>> > really worth the effort, and the price :)
>>>>
>>>> very +1
>>>>
>>>> and keep in mind: real men do everything as root and don't make
>>>> backups :)
>>>>
>>>> I think sudo main advantage is to grant certain administrative
>>>> privileges to junior sysadmin or regular users, without to reveal the
>>>> root password.
>>>
>>> sudo is undeniably handy when administration is shared among several
>>> admins, but in those cases it should be used with extreme care. I know
>>> of real situations when one of the sudoers was allowed to edit
>>> /etc/sudoers, and left the machine unusable by other admins due to a
>>> syntax error in /etc/sudoers...
>>>
>>> Again, tools are just tools, and can't be replacements for policy and
>>> knowledge.
>>>
>>> If one has to use something like sudo, I prefer the approach of
>>> simpler tools, in the same spirit of "sup"
>>> https://git.devuan.org/jaromil/sup).
>>>
>>> My2Cents
>>>
>>> KatolaZ
>>>
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