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Author: aitor_czr
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To: KatolaZ, Rainer Weikusat, dng
Subject: Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

Hi all,

El 21/05/16 a las 14:00, Didier Kryn <kryn@???> escribió:
> Le 21/05/2016 11:35, KatolaZ a écrit :
>> >On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 08:18:16AM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote:
>> >
>> >[cut]
>> >
>>>> >>>version of the initramfs), but might be useful if you want to use the
>>>> >>>live image as a rescue cd, and boot into an existing / on your
>>>> >>>drive. Not necessary. Maybe useful.
>>> >>      The disk controllers need to be on the live cd for sure, but why
>>> >>in the initramfs?
>> >Only if you want to boot to an existing partition, which is something
>> >that I would like to support anyway.
>       OK, I didn't catch that. Means you don't boot to the cdrom and
> interrupt the initramfs script to ask it to mount the other disk instead?

>
>> >
>>>>> >>>>rebuild the kernel with those drivers statically linked and boot
>>>>> >>>>directly to the cdrom without and initramfs.
>>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>Oh, sure we could. But my point is to use standard packages from the
>>>> >>>Devuan repo, without too much of customising/recompiling.
>>> >>      I was just thinking of a minimal hack: starting from Devuan's
>>> >>kernel config, just change a few drivers' build-mode from module to
>>> >>static. After all, do you think it's more of a hack than stripping
>>> >>the initramfs? But I admit it's a different journey than the one you
>>> >>have undertaken.

>>> >>
>> >That would be possible, but maybe it will not be needed, since the
>> >initrd is currently under 7MB anyway, and the "micro" version might be
>> >as small as 5 MB. The problem now might be the kernel itself, whose
>> >size (when decompressed) is of the same order of the initrd:) But I
>> >won't dig in that direction, for the moment....
>> >
>>>> >>> Otherwise we
>>>> >>>could also recompile everything with uclibc, as done in other minimal
>>>> >>>distro, and have a truly microscopic userland, but that would be
>>>> >>>*another* distribution, not a Devuan;)
>>>> >>>
>>> >>      Musl libc is already a serious challenge:-)  Uclibc a nightmare,
>>> >>too incompatible with glibc.

>>> >>
>>> >>      Sorry if I look harsh, providing recommendations to people who
>>> >>do the real job:-)  ideas come out of the conversation and I just
>>> >>like to share them with knowledgeable people.

>>> >>
>> >Among adults, receiving honest and "harsh" comments, and reflecting on
>> >them, is the most effective and productive way to improve on your
>> >work. Saying that everything is cool and smooth and perfect has never
>> >saved the world, or changed things. So thank you again for your
>> >comments, which are very much appreciated and will be taken into
>> >account seriously, and please feel free to fire at me any thought as
>> >you have done so far:)
>> >
>> >
>       Thanks for your words, and for Devuan at all... I'm going to
> install beta on a desktop today:-)


I rebuilt KatolaZ's distribution doing some minor changes: I added
deborphan, firmware-linux-free and ntp... I also removed the refracta
tools from the filesystem.squashfs, including them in devuan-installer
together with the backend of simple-netaid as optional unofficial
packages of Devuan, in a *udeb* package named "unofficial-packages-udeb".

Installing the backend of simple-netaid, you will be able to connect to
eth0 typing:

/usr/lib/simple-netaid/bin/backend 9 eth0

Here you are the download zone:

http://gnuinos.org/devuan/

Following Jaromil's suggestions, I added the package_list including the
versions of the installed packages.

Cheers,

Aitor.