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Author: Emiliano Marini
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To: KatolaZ
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Subject: Re: [DNG] Sparse thoughts
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> Devuan is not "against something", but "towards something else".



+1000

On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 4:25 AM, KatolaZ <katolaz@???> wrote:

> Dear fellow Devuanists,
>
> I just wanted to share with the list a few sparse thoughts, resulting
> from the events of the last few days. You should read a clear "IMHO"
> after each period, since these are my personal, humble, minuscle
> thoughts, which you are free to ignore altogether :)
>
> First, I haven't said that yet, but I am obviously very happy that
> Devuan Jessie Beta is finally out, and extremely grateful to the
> people in the development team that made it possible, and to the
> people in this list who have supported them, in a way or another. We
> don't forget that the overwhelming majority of the Linux world has
> always been quite skeptical about Devuan, labelling it as a "futile
> effort" by a "band of neo-luddites", and that the large majority of
> commentators, experts, gurus, and fanboys gave Devuan "just a few
> months" before the whole wagon would disappear to /dev/null. Devuan
> Jessie Beta is another proof that the majority is quite often wrong:
> definitely more than a few months have passed, and Devuan is here, and
> is here to stay.
>
> We are all proud of this milestone, but we should be very careful not
> allowing pride to make us blind.
>
> The release of Beta was managed very carefully and professionally, and
> was overall a success, but we should learn from the few things that
> were not as perfect as they could be.
>
> For instance, several small glitches could have been avoided easily: a
> few typos in the official announcement, a few typos in the official
> webpage (see for instance the "mirrors" vs "mirror" in the package
> source URL), a few inconsistencies in the documentation put online,
> and so on. These are all things that undermine our public image, and
> unfortunately many people want to ruin Devuan's image, for a reason or
> another. Maybe for the future we might have a larger number of people
> checking this stuff before an official press release comes out. I
> volunteer from now to help in "typo-hunting", and I will start with
> our website (which is *beautiful*, BTW).
>
> Talking of Devuan's image, I really appreciated that the release of
> beta was not accompained by trumpets and drums, which helped giving an
> aura of "well, this is what should have naturally happend, right?" to
> the whole process. I have to admit that I was also a bit disappointed
> at first in noting that most of the community out there had barely
> noticed it. In the end, I concluded that this should not be a problem
> for us. Let's face it: Devuan *is* a niche, a minority, an effort that
> goes in a different direction from "mainstream", and there is nothing
> wrong about it. The most important thing is that *we*, the
> *Devuanists*, had something to celebrate yesterday, a great operating
> system to use from today, and a solid project on which to build
> greater things for tomorrow. All the great things started from niches,
> minorities, contrarians, and *evolution* alone, not PR, has eventually
> determined which of the many niches would survive.
>
> Finally, about evolution, I have seen several hundreds posts on reddit
> and slashdot by people who "fight" to show that systemd is evil while
> Devuan is "the right thing". I would humbly recommend people to avoid
> wasting their energy in such useless chit-chatting. No informed
> opinion by a tech-savvy will convince me that systemd is good, and the
> same is true in the other direction. Devuan is not "against
> something", but "towards something else". The things that will allow
> Devuan to remain alive will be a reliable distribution, a large user
> base, a thriving community. *Evolution* has already sweeped out
> thousands of distributions, and will sweep out thousands more in the
> future. Only those which are fit for the purpose they target will
> survive, whatever is the opinion of the majority, or of their
> supporters and fanboys. So it's better to put our efforts towards
> building a stronger, better, fitter Devuan, since our opinions about
> Devuan will not save it from oblivion.
>
> Now off to work to release Jessie stable ASAP.
>
> HND
>
> KatolaZ
>
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