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Author: Didier Kryn
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To: dng
Subject: Re: [DNG] state of what's working for modern desktop usage
Le 09/02/2016 18:17, Didier Kryn a écrit :
> Le 09/02/2016 17:24, Steve Litt a écrit :
>> On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 12:16:08 +0100 Didier Kryn <kryn@???> wrote:
>> > > >> Easynetaid/netbarx is an option, preferably when it is
> available >> from the repo. In the mean time, wpagui is working fine,
> as from >> many years - > > I use wpa_gui every time I take one of my
> laptops on the road, and I > get it to work, but I wouldn't call its
> functionality "working > fine." First of all, its human interface is
> ridiculous. Instead of > conversing with the human at human level and
> translating for > wpa_supplicant, it converses with wpa_supplicant at
> wpa_supplicant > level and makes the human translate. The thing where
> you have to go > to another tab, press scan, press scan again,
> doubleclick, remember > the number of the new network, go back to the
> first tab, select it, > and wait for your IP address (or not) is
> ridiculous. > > Then there's the poor documentation of the whole wpa_*
> line of > software: Few know how it works. Then add in dhcpcd, Ugh! >
> >> I always wondered why there existed network-manager at all > > For
> the reasons I enumerated above. I don't use NetworkManager > because
> it's too much baggage, but I have to admit, its > human-engineering is
> spectacular **on a window manager with a > panel**. > >> and I used to
> purge it right after install. wpagui is developped >> by the authors
> of wpa-supplicant. It takes a little editing of >> wpa-supplicant.conf
> and interfaces to start, but there are pretty >> good howtos (search
> for something like "wifi roaming with wpa >> supplicant") > > This is
> good information. Thank you, I'll search. And if I can't get > wpa_gui
> to work in a reasonable way, eventually I'll build a state > machine
> that interacts with wpa_cli correctly, taking its cues and > reporting
> its info to a GUI I write that looks a heck of a lot like >
> NetworkManager (but has only dependencies wpa_supplicant, wpa_cli, >
> and Python Tkinter. > > SteveT >
>
>     You need little editing after install - it should be done during 
> package installation, but it is not. Then you need to run wpagui only 
> when you connect to a *new* wifi station. You save the config, and 
> then wpa-supplicant automatically connects you the the local wifi 
> station wherever you are.

>
>     I was thinking of making that UI in ncurses, but the fact is I 
> understand very little of this wifi crypting thechnology which sees a 
> new protocol every year. wpagui fills all the fields of the form for 
> you and you just need to fill what it can't guess: the password.

>
>     Didier
> //

>

     Well, seems I've been f. up by iceweasel. Probably hit a wrang key. 
Sorry guys.