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Author: Go Linux
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To: dng, Didier Kryn
Subject: Re: [DNG] systemd is haunting me
On Sun, 1/31/16, Didier Kryn <kryn@???> wrote:

Subject: Re: [DNG] systemd is haunting me
To: dng@???
Date: Sunday, January 31, 2016, 4:38 PM

Le 31/01/2016 17:39, Go Linux a écrit :
> On Sun, 1/31/16, Didier Kryn <kryn@???> wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: [DNG] systemd is haunting me
> To: dng@???
> Date: Sunday, January 31, 2016, 10:17 AM
>
> Le 31/01/2016 02:18, Go Linux a écrit :
>
>>     I am just now upgrading Jessie and something wants to pull in libsystemd0.  I have no idea what.
>       I made some trials.

>
>       On Devuan Alpha2, libsystemd0 is required by (at least) policykit
> and gvfs.

>
>       - gvfs is necessary if you want xfce4 to show an icon on the
> desktop when you plug in a removable media.

>
>       - policykit and policykit-gnome are necessary if you want to run
> synaptic from xfce4's menu.

>
>       Didier

>
> --------------------------------------------
>
> The operative qualifier being 'at least'. Just for giggles, I tried to remove it and got this thrown at me:
>
> The following packages will be REMOVED:
>    acpi-fakekey avidemux avidemux-plugins ca-certificates-java default-jre
>    default-jre-headless dvdstyler ffmpeg gimp gnome-orca gvfs gvfs-backends
>    gvfs-daemons libasound2-plugins libavdevice56 libespeak1 libgegl-0.2-0
>    liblavplay-2.1-0 libmikmod3 libmjpegtools-dev libpulse-dev
>    libpulse-mainloop-glib0 libpulse0 libsdl-image1.2 libsdl-sound1.2
>    libsdl-sound1.2-dev libsdl1.2-dev libsdl1.2debian libsystemd0 libxine2-x
>    mjpegtools mplayer2 openjdk-7-jre openjdk-7-jre-headless packagekit
>    packagekit-tools sane-utils smplayer smplayer-l10n smplayer-themes
>    speech-dispatcher speech-dispatcher-audio-plugins vlc xine-ui

>
> What a mess! Just how do you fix that!! (Rhetorical question btw)
>
>

     The list isn't so long that it cannot be reduced carefully, step by
step. I'll have a look tomorrow evening, but I must add I have remove
packagekit. Also sane-tools since I haven't a scanner connected to that
laptop. I doubt I have avidemux, speech-dispatcher or mplayer installed,
but I have some components of pulseaudio and alsa for sure. I must check
for default-jre and gimp because both are pretty usefull. This is not my
personal laptop, I installed it for my wife, but I use it also as a
Devuan test bench.


     BTW I've read on Wikipedia that packagekit is a common front end to
several package management systems. But they also say it is aiming at
doing IPC, what the hell? It's a freedesktop.org thing. At least this
one kit can be removed.


     Didier


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orca was part of the default install and likely accounts for speech-dispatcher. I think I tried removing orca early on but ran into a similar situation as above. I do a lot of media work and that is a problem with the pulseaudio stuff that's hooked in. I removed PA and some related stuff a while back but libpulse0 is still needed. When the beta comes out, I may just start over and build things up from scratch very carefully.

So how did packagekit get in there?

So many questions . . .

golinux