On 18/12/15 19:02, Steve Litt wrote:
> Yeah, in an ideal world, we'd like to remove every rotting vestige of
> systemd, but in a practical world, where if we don't timely produce
> something people can actually use, this has all been for naught,
> removal is a process, where on the first go-around we remove systemd as
> PID1 and the process supervisor

Then I don't understand what the point of Devuan is -- you can "remove
systemd as
PID1 and the process supervisor" in Debian.