ill do it, gimme a hundred BTC

On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 9:34 AM, Adam Gibson <ekaggata@???> wrote:

> > On 10/18/2015 08:09 PM, snakecharmr wrote:> Late to the party, I know,
> but why would someone choose DW over JoinMarket?
> >
>
> One of the joinmarket devs here: they're pretty different things
> (DW/JM) although of course there's a meaningful overlap in coinjoin.
>
> JM is not (yet) ready for a non-tech user. If you're happy with
> working on the command line you can use it, but not really otherwise.
> Our hope is that it will be integrated into wallets.
>
> The main point about JM is solving the coordination problem. Example:
> yesterday I paid for my hosting using a 5 party coinjoin. After I had
> the receiving address from bitpay, it took about 20 seconds for me to
> get the other 4 anonymous parties to send over the signatures and then
> send the transaction.
>
> There are ~50 participants available to join right now (see
> joinmarket.io for example) and probably ~ 100 such transactions going
> on every day, maybe a lot more, but it's very difficult to get a good
> estimate (you'd have to do a detailed blockchain scan). Just
> "ballpark" based on what I see my own bot doing.
>
> But DW is (or was) intended to be an actual wallet, something people
> could use, with decent functionality and a GUI. IIRC it also had extra
> features like stealth addresses, right? I actually never got round to
> even installing it. At one point I was waiting for a Firefox version.
>
> TLDR Dark wallet is a wallet (clue is in the name), join market is a
> tool, and a market, for large scale trustless mixing / coinjoin. It
> has a wallet built in, but not a user friendly one. Could change in
> the future, although most likely a plugin for another wallet.
>
> Happy to answer any questions on JM if it comes up.
> Adam
>
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