That would be a great project to crowdsource, a wiki-graph for political
and corporate power.

2015-09-24 3:14 GMT+02:00 odinn <odinn.cyberguerrilla@???>:

> > Hey Pablo,
>
> Given how tech for SNA (social network analysis) has progressed over a
> short number of years, it seems to me it would be relatively easy to
> crowdsource such a project (including solicit data from the crowd so
> that people would be able to submit information through a website
> about actors who influence global politics and have that populate a
> graph which would evolve in real time for general SNA purposes).
> Thus anyone could submit information to the graph, but there would be
> editors for the project so that if the data submitted is ludicrous it
> would be able to be modified.
>
> Just my two bits
>
> Pablo:
> > I enjoyed http://www.theyrule.net/ in the past, but it's quite old
> > already and it's a corporate (not political) power graph only for
> > the largest american companies. I would love if something like this
> > was done for global political and corporate power.
> >
> > 2015-09-22 8:57 GMT+02:00 odinn <odinn.cyberguerrilla@???>:
> >
> > See https://twitter.com/orgnet - orgnet.com - and the software,
> > InFlow. (I picked up a copy of it some years back and got
> > training from its author, Valdis Krebs... needless to say,
> > interesting stuff)
> >
> > -O
> >
> > futureleadersofdesign@???:
> >>>> http://www.thebrain.com/
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Sep 21, 2015, at 9:36 AM, Jonathan Valiente
> >>>>> <tinkeringengr@???> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Is there enough data in the public domain to create an
> >>>>> association graph of all the actors who influence global
> >>>>> politics? Or are we forever rate limited by whistle-blowers
> >>>>> from the inside?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 'global western interests' Seems like such a fuzzy entity.
> >>>>> As if we are just waiting at its mercy for its next play.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I desire a graph (nodes and edges) so I can see
> >>>>> associations before they happen. For instance, if I looked
> >>>>> at the dick cheney node I could see his corporate and
> >>>>> political associations along with some well devised metrics
> >>>>> of how he politicizes. That way I could see beforehand his
> >>>>> associations with halliburton and make meaningful
> >>>>> predictions such as the conflict of interest with invading
> >>>>> Iraq. I could also see all other actors who are associated
> >>>>> with the halliburton keyword.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You could start small with a core subset and then
> >>>>> continually curate the graph like a wiki. It would be nice
> >>>>> to have some sophisticated intelligence, something
> >>>>> concrete.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm sure the CIA is already doing something like this.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 7:52 AM, Amir Taaki
> >>>>>> <genjix@???> wrote: Continuing from our last
> >>>>>> emails about Corbyn and global western interests, and the
> >>>>>> mythology of liberalist ideas.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Here is an interview with Assange where he talks about
> >>>>>> the cables about US plans to destabilise Syria in 2006
> >>>>>> through sectarianism and allowing terrorism, and about
> >>>>>> Corbyn's anti-NATO anti-military stance.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3HWiydFlJc
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Mainly to paraphrase that Corbyn challenging the
> >>>>>> military establishment will make some big enemies to
> >>>>>> oppose him, and if does show signs of success then it
> >>>>>> could even put him in personal danger.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> If this all sounds rather crazy or conspiratorial to you,
> >>>>>> then welcome to the new world of the internet where truth
> >>>>>> is being rendered visible.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> New article, titled:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> British Army 'could stage mutiny under Corbyn', says
> >>>>>> senior serving general
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/british-army-could-
> sta
> >
> >>>>>>
> ge-mutiny-under-corbyn-says-senior-serving-general-10509742.html
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> > Orwell wrote a book on the use of English language in politics, and
> > here
> >>>>>> we see how they have renamed coup d'etat to the less
> >>>>>> sinister "mutiny" which gives the impression of a
> >>>>>> legitimate rebellion from below, not a power grab by the
> >>>>>> army.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Reminds me of another news article on areas under IS
> >>>>>> control saying how business are being "extorted" to fund
> >>>>>> IS activity i.e they are being taxed.
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