If Sanders was only able to animate the white middle class I would agree,
but he is pulling people from both sides of the 'political spectrum' who
are fed up with the corporatocracy. His base is highly galvanized,
something which can't be bought; he had over 100,000 people attend his
rallies over the summer which is an order of magnitude greater the HRC.

As far as the US public is concerned Bernie Sanders is coming from left
field, but as he becomes a household name the numbers will charge
drastically. He marched with MLK back when it was politically taboo, you
can't buy that authenticity no matter how much money HRC can raise. He is
getting endorsements from black political figures such as Cornel West and
is working with the 'black lives matters' movement. Once people see that
he has been historically on the side of civil rights, instead of judging
him as an old white guy, the minority vote will swing.

The media has been ignoring him and downplaying his campaign since day 1,
fortunately social media has changed the game and the pundits still don't
understand the momentum behind Bernie, but I can see it. Its an avalanche.

On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 9:45 AM, Cody R Wilson <codywilson@???>
wrote:

> Iowa is only a key contest in political journalism. It's Dem voters are
> 95% white liberal. Bill Bradley and Gary Hart won. Howard Dean won in 2004.
> But then that's it. They had none of the non-white liberal vote.
>
> Black voters are 25% of the national Democratic base. HRC leads sanders
> 65-10 in August with non-white democrat voters nationally. Sanders will win
> with a bunch of middle class white liberals in the North, with whom he has
> a ridiculous affinity, then the contests will turn South and he will be
> gutted. Sanders 2016 is not Obama 2008. He's far behind where Obama was in
> fundraising and non-white voter support at this point.
>
> On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 10:14 AM, Jonathan Valiente <
> tinkeringengr@???> wrote:
>
>> My bad, I wasn't looking at the national polls. I was referring to the
>> polls in New Hampshire and Iowa where he went from pretty much 0% to
>> leading Hilary in the double digits. These are key states that heavily
>> influence the DNC nominee. A similar phenomena occurred in 2008 with Obama
>> when everyone assumed Hilary to win until she lost I think its naive to
>> discount sanders because he doesn't have the name recognition of Hilary. I
>> doubt Hilary will be able to hold any lead whatsoever after the first
>> debates. Not to mention she isn't going to win with the 'FBI as her running
>> mate'.
>>
>> As for Bernie's positions, I hardly think dismantling the top 6 financial
>> institutions that are 'too big to fail' to be inline with the DNC. His
>> other positions such as overturning Citizens United and cutting defense
>> spending are equally useful. I'll take the socialization of healthcare and
>> education as well. I am really interested in Bernie's authenticity and
>> integrity foremost. He isn't taking donations from billionaires, so he
>> doesn't owe anyone any political favors. He is an advocate for the people
>> with a rational mind. He certainly isn't politics as usual.
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 8:32 AM, Cody R Wilson <codywilson@???>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 9:10 AM, Linards Berzins <
>>> linardsberzins@???> wrote:
>>>
>>>> hmmm...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sanders seems to be surging in polls not losing:
>>>> https://www.google.com/search?q=sanders+loosing+in+national+polls&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#q=sanders+national+polls
>>>>
>>>> Any insight?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yes check the national aggregate of polls here at RCP:
>>> http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/2016_democratic_presidential_nomination-3824.html
>>>
>>> As of 9/13 her national average is +21.4 over Sanders. Remember these
>>> are polls that now all *include* Biden. Say Biden doesn't run, Clinton is
>>> back to +35. It's not even close. Now Sanders has momentum in Iowa and New
>>> Hampshire especially, but there are plenty of historical examples of the
>>> candidate who wins Iowa becoming irrelevant by the time the primaries move
>>> South.
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 16 September 2015 at 15:01, Cody R Wilson <codywilson@???>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I take Marx for a fetishist who left social theory in a productivist
>>>>> rut. Corbyn's shadow chancellor reportedly wants to nationalize the English
>>>>> banks, railways and utilities. So pretty anarchist.
>>>>>
>>>>> Re: Sanders in the US, his positions are 95% percent standard DNC
>>>>> positions. He is losing in every national poll by 20 points, and without
>>>>> the prospect of Biden losing by 30 points to HRC.
>>>>>
>>>>> Corbyn's first PMQ: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-0KkGdPIz4
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 3:53 AM, Jaromil <jaromil@???> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 12 September 2015 21:00:42 CEST, Cody R Wilson <
>>>>>> codywilson@???> wrote:
>>>>>> >Yeah full take security state in Albion until I'm an old man.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >Corbyn is an un-reconstructed, Old World Marxist. Of course the
>>>>>> >enfeebled
>>>>>> >English youth support him.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Corbyn is not a vetero-marxist at all. The fact that Marx produced
>>>>>> the only viable
>>>>>> political-economy framework for analisys in the past 200 years does
>>>>>> not makes
>>>>>> it easy to separate ideologists from political scientists, indeed.
>>>>>> Just take Marx as
>>>>>> a champion for the sort of materialist rationalism he comes from, for
>>>>>> a moment.
>>>>>> His analisys is damn right and today it applies to left and right
>>>>>> political
>>>>>> movements without distinction, because it has to do with people's
>>>>>> life much more
>>>>>> than what the elite (arguably, most often the left, hard
>>>>>> incongruence) pretends it to be.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Said that, Corbyn is first of all an activist and we haven't seen
>>>>>> those since a long
>>>>>> time around politics. As of political definitions, I recognize in him
>>>>>> an anarcho-socialist,
>>>>>> which personally I consider the step into adulthood for any anarchist
>>>>>> around, just like
>>>>>> an "ontogenesis resuming the philogenesis": every child grows into an
>>>>>> adult person by
>>>>>> progressing out of individualism into the pains and joys of
>>>>>> perceiving others
>>>>>> (gosh this could be a sense8 line...)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ciao
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>
>>>>> Cody R. Wilson
>>>>> codywilson@???
>>>>>
>>>>> The University of Texas School of Law
>>>>> Class of 2014
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>>>
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>>>
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> Cody R. Wilson
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>
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