interesting one here, i actually went to the same school as jeremy corbyn
(adams grammar school, newport shropshire) - and the hardcore anarchist
tendency have a direct line to the brother piers whos a really interesting
chap. rejects the notion that CO2 causes global warming. sun spots , what
what, and actually hes fairly good on some analyses on predicting weather.
well iv put it to him, since he is a break with new labour blair (who
introduced 42 day detention, terrorist control orders AND the
conservative/coalition governments who put so many young spies and wreckers
into and created little "movements" - that there is an oppurtunity here, im
meeting with piers later this week, we hope that the office of "her most
loyal opposition" can accomadate a few young spycatchers to catch the
entryist undercover careerists which will surely be jumping up, and provide
a few aces for my man corbyn, what for example if his first question at
PMQs is "what do you know dave about the death of princess diana the
peoples princess?" - well will "call me dave" say , why of course she was
killed by MI6 and DGSE because she was carrying dodi al fayads muslim baby!
- well we will see what comes of these meetings, bbut personally, this
terrorist here, might cut his hair and go into politics, well the
intersection of media/security/politics

On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 7:10 AM, Jonathan Valiente <tinkeringengr@???>
wrote:

> Are guys having a populist movement across the pond? What do you know, I
> guess its a viral meme for 2015.
> Perhaps we are finally(!) at a stage when a critical mass of disgruntled
> citizens decide to stand up for their rights.
>
> I have been appreciating one particular grass-roots movements over in the
> US by the likes of Bernie Sanders -- the new presidential front runner for
> the 'left' (but really for anyone anti-corpratocracy). It is quite
> peculiar.
>
> Its funny to see the establishment media completely discredit or ignore
> his campaign, and yet its completely irrelevant now that we have the
> Internet to disseminate information. I wish I could have a montage of the
> faces of all the supposed 'expert' pundits as they continue to see the rise
> in polling of a socialist overtaking the establishments carry on as usual
> politics.
>
> The pessimist in me doesn't actually believe what is happening. I was
> burned long ago by a presidential nominee spouting change and hope..perhaps
> I am still naive, but something about Bernies historical voting record and
> integrity tells me we finally have a representative. I believe in miracles
> :)
>
> The realist in me knows that even if elected, Bernie will be tied down by
> a calcified bureaucratic system that wishes to maintain the status quo.
> (BUT, if he galvanizes the people for the entirety of his campaign as he is
> determined to do, imagine what could be done!)
>
> The optimist in me is shouting, Go Bernie GO!
> #FeelTheBern
>
> (sorry if my position isn't in the ethos of 'pure' anarchism, but perhaps
> some good news is better then more bad news :p)
>
> On Sun, Sep 13, 2015 at 7:47 AM, holger krekel <holger@???> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Sep 12, 2015 at 14:00 -0500, Cody R Wilson wrote:
>> > Yeah full take security state in Albion until I'm an old man.
>> >
>> > Corbyn is an un-reconstructed, Old World Marxist. Of course the
>> enfeebled
>> > English youth support him.
>>
>> I've met and still talk to some Marxists who see an elite centralist state
>> as neccessary for society transformation. I don't share such a vision.
>>
>> However, some of what i heart from Corbyn does not come across like this
>> ...
>> like when he regards grass root discussions as fundamental to his
>> party's policy or that he wants to find new ways to manage public
>> railways other than through government buereaucracies. This
>> hints at more horizontalism than your typical Marxist functionary.
>>
>> However that may be, I don't even find the criterium of "electability"
>> a useful one. I don't reduce politics to marketing questions.
>> What does it help to get someone elected who then doesn't
>> change anything but just adds some flavor to neoliberalism?
>>
>> Besides, how can you predict electoral situations in 2020 when even 2015
>> evades certainty? I have partials ideas, see potential developments
>> but don't have a certain view on what the situation will be in 2015 in
>> Turkey, Spain, Catalonia, Germany, hungary, Egypt, ...
>>
>> H.
>>
>>
>> > On Sep 12, 2015 1:56 PM, "Tim Patrick" <judoman589@???> wrote:
>> >
>> > > And with Corbyn's win, the Conservative party rule is now garuanteed
>> until
>> > > 2025
>> > >
>> > > On Saturday, September 12, 2015, Amir Taaki <genjix@???>
>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-34223157
>> > >>
>> > >> Jeremy Corbyn wins with 59.5, other 3 candidates: 19, 17, 4.5
>> > >>
>> > >> More votes than Tony Blair had before when he swept to power by
>> changing
>> > >> Labour to win more votes with a flashy new campaign.
>> > >>
>> > >> Jeremy Corbyn said his campaign had given the lie to claims that
>> young
>> > >> Britons were apathetic about politics, showing instead that they
>> were "a
>> > >> very political generation that were turned off by the way in which
>> > >> politics was being conducted - we have to, and must, change that".
>> > >>
>> > >> Damn straight!
>> > >>
>> > >> Everything's forgetting... It's not about his politics, or his
>> policies.
>> > >> It's about what he represents. Even the top comment on Reddit
>> worldnews
>> > >> is just talking about his policies. That's not why people are
>> supporting
>> > >> him.
>> > >>
>> > >> Here's an example:
>> > >>
>> > >> His marriage of several years ended a few years ago because he
>> refused
>> > >> to send his child to a grammar school, whereas his wife wanted "the
>> best
>> > >> education for her son". Being against privilege, Jeremy refused to
>> > >> compromise on his principles and ended his marriage over it.
>> > >>
>> > >> Commentary on the Guardian titled "Is grassroots politics the
>> future?"
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/sep/12/is-grassroots-politics-the-future-share-your-views
>> > >>
>> > >> "Political candidates in the UK, US and Europe that would have seemed
>> > >> unlikely frontrunners a year ago are challenging establishment
>> politics
>> > >> by harnessing enormous grassroots support. Has politics changed
>> forever?"
>> > >>
>> > >> "Do you believe that there’s a new global grassroots political
>> movement?
>> > >> And could it effect real change? Is the world now ready for a new
>> style
>> > >> of leadership that seems to represent truly democratic, bottom-up
>> > >> politics?"
>> > >>
>> > >> "In the digital age, people aren’t ruled by what’s delivered to them
>> by
>> > >> mainstream media..."
>> > >>
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