Good points.

We are going to have to change the conversation of the masses -- continue what
Snowden started. Start getting people to feel the need to be kickstarting type
funding such efforts, including such a proper web browser, Etc.

On Wednesday, September 02, 2015 02:02:36 PM psy wrote:
> On 02/09/15 13:49, Sam wrote:
> > I wasn't saying something is wrong with GPG per say. But since you
> > mention
> > it: The problem with GPG over email is really just the complication. It is
> > not easy enough for a child or granny so not everyone uses it. The
> > protocol is great, but needs to be merged into the messaging layer itself
> > to solve the problem I mention.
> >
> > What I was more taking about is email. Let us agree/work upon building a
> > unified p2p messaging standard to replace it. When standardized and
> > started to be implemented across p2p systems, it will win out because it
> > is inherently better in that it is private when no non p2p can be. It is
> > uncensorable, Etc. It can be spam resistant with POW, Etc.
> >
> > When the world relies on such a thing for everyday tasks, it will be more
> > difficult to take away encryption.
>
> I am totally agree about cotidianity.
>
> But looks, no only thinking on childs using encryption and more on
> create a more high previous privacy methods, my question is for example:
> What's happen with GPG encryption over mailing lists?.
>
> I mean, all this technologies (email, IRC..) looks good deployed by
> stacked on developments on time. Not only on the user friendly way.
>
> Another example is: Why we haven't a community browser (a python one,
> for example)?. Iceweasel comes with Debian (free software). And it
> starts to have ads.
>
> We are losing soberanity.... etc. etc... And we need to have it to win
> the battle of encryption.
>
> > On Wednesday, September 02, 2015 01:41:11 PM Otto Meier wrote:
> >> What is faulty with GPG ?
> >>
> >> On 02.09.2015, at 13:33, Sam <unsystem@???> wrote:
> >>> Agreed. We must make many common day things, like basic email, use
> >>> encryption software. And I'm not talking about GPG. I'm talking
> >>> inherently encrypted p2p messaging.
> >>>
> >>> Sam
> >>>
> >>> On Wednesday, September 02, 2015 01:28:01 PM psy wrote:
> >>>> Turkey official tells Al Jazeera charges made after fixer found to have
> >>>> encryption software used by ISIL on his laptop....
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/09/vice-news-fixer-arrested-encrypti
> >>>> on
> >>>> -so ftware-150901200622345.html
> >>>>
> >>>> ....
> >>>>
> >>>> It is increasingly clear that the world's governments see the
> >>>> encryption
> >>>> tool as a threat to the repression. I begin to see many similar news..
> >>>>
> >>>> In the following years they will try to ban it "legally" with the
> >>>> complicity of the manufacturers and big IT companies (that will
> >>>> implement ONLY in-secure encryption breakeable by secret agencies).
> >>>>
> >>>> We have to remember that 'encrypt' will be a crime shortly.
> >>>>
> >>>> Maybe agood way to avoid this is to make more widespread encryption. If
> >>>> not, will be so easy to them recognize who is using encryption just
> >>>> sniffing traffic massively.
> >>>>
> >>>> What's your opinion?. Let's brainstorm some strategies...
> >>>
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