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Author: Rob Owens
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Subject: Re: [DNG] Proposed defaults changes
----- Original Message -----
> From: "Franco Lanza" <nextime@???>
> On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 09:35:03AM -0400, Rob Owens wrote:
>> Which is Devuan intended to be?
>>
>> 1) Debian without systemd
>> 2) A Debian-like distro
>>
>
> Nor 1 or 2.
> Devuan is intended to be a debian that respect:
> 1- freedom of choice
> 2- UNIX philosophy
> 3- KISS philosophy
>
> Of course first of all those 3 points make systemd unacceptable. But
> saying that devuan is just "debian withous systemd" is riductive.
>
> traditionally UNIX has vi, this is why i'm suggesting it. No packages
> needs to be changed at all for this eventual switch, and anyway,
> as devuan respect the users, this choice isn't an imposition from "the
> hight", but it's a question to the whole ml userbase to listen pro/cons.


In that case, my next question would be "Do we want to cater to those who
are new to Linux/Unix?" If yes, then nano is a good choice. If no, then
vi is a good choice.

I don't like using nano, and always install vim, followed by
'update-alternatives'. But I remember as a new user being frustrated
that I couldn't follow a simple how-to because I didn't know how to use
vi. When I discovered nano, it was a huge relief.

I don't mind defaulting to nano for the sake of new users, even if nano
isn't what I want to use. I know how to change the defaults. A new
user does not.

-Rob