my thoughts on this are that we should first get away from the kind of
isolated thinking, instead understanding the totally of the system we
live in which possesses & manages capital for the benefit of a
capitalist class.

secondly that we have to embrace the roughness, that this conveyor belt
system of neutrality is a pipe dream that we want to tear down.

instead what if we wielded capital and didn't use it to support a
capitalist class, but instead invested into social enterprises or
cooperatives that provided their own form of welfare, and drew the
attention of people inside that work for the benefit of their own
neighbourhoods and themselves... whereby people work because they enjoy
what they're doing, where it has a sense of fulfilment rather than blind
unethical work devoid of value simply only because it pays good.

for me this is the root of the problem in this world. and talk of
welfare and economics doesn't encompass everything properly.
our societies are devoid of politics, and we need to inject it heavily
into society like what is happening in rojava.

Devon Read:
> Great summary Caleb, thanks for sharing it
>
>>
>> So if this theory is to be believed, why don't we establish a trade and
>> currency zone
>> which levies a progressive income tax and distributes the money to every
>> person in equal
>> measure?
>>
>
> My concern about this suggestion would be that taxes = force, even if they
> are intended to be used for benevolent purposes.
>
>
>> Finally, if Unconditional Basic Income is actually economically
>> defensible, could it not
>> be implemented through a cryptocurrency with an identity management
>> extension?
>>
>
> Yes, i sure think it could be (and also that an unconditional basic income
> is defensible)
>
> Tho i'd argue that the way to create the pool of money needed to give
> everyone a basic income should be provided through replacing the massive
> economic activities that the private banks provide with crowd-owned, open
> source and transparent mechanisms that accomplish the same benevolent goals
> that those institutions claim they exist for (like an honest, transparent
> IMF), but with dramatically improved efficiencies and much lower costs.
>
> Just my 2 cents
>
> Devon
>
>
>
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