On 06/11/2015 02:17 PM, Jude Nelson wrote:
> Hi Clarke,
>
> Can you:
> * give us a listing of which systemd packages are installed (something like
> "aptitude search systemd | egrep ^i")?
> * use "apt-cache rdepends" to show us which packages depend on them?
>
> Thanks,
> Jude
>


Not the OP here, and not exactly what you're asking, but here's what I did
yesterday:

Installed devuan-alpha2-amd64 netinstall iso in virtualbox. At tasksel, I
un-checked Print Server and Devuan Desktop Environment, and I checked
XFCE. All seemed to be working well after install.

dpkg -l | grep systemd
ii  libpam-systemd:amd64                  215-17+deb8u1
     amd64        system and service manager - PAM module
ii  libsystemd0:amd64                     215-17+deb8u1
     amd64        systemd utility library
ii  systemd                               215-17+deb8u1
     amd64        system and service manager
ii  systemd-shim                          9-1
     amd64        shim for systemd

'aptitude why' pointed to task-xfce-desktop as the reason for systemd
packages, so I attempted to remove that.

'apt-get -s remove task-xfce-desktop libpam-systemd systemd' gave me a
long list of packages that were no longer needed and were set to
autoremove. (See below for the full list.) So I apt-get installed that
list of packages and then I could remove systemd, systemd-shim and
libpam-systemd without losing my whole desktop environment.

After that, shutdown and reboot buttons stopped working in xfce and
lightdm. Only logout from the desktop worked, bringing me to the login screen.

Then I added back systemd, systemd-shim and libpam-systemd. Desktop
buttons are no longer gray, but shutdown and reboot only bring me to the
lightdm login screen. Power button choices in lightdm are all grayed out.
That's not what I expected, and I don't know what's different from the
original install. If I get a chance to do it again, I can make full
packages lists before and after to see if something else got removed but
not reinstalled.

HTH,
fsr

crda dns-root-data dnsmasq-base espeak-data exfalso fonts-freefont-ttf gimp
   25    gimp-data gir1.2-atspi-2.0 gir1.2-gst-plugins-base-1.0
gir1.2-gstreamer-1.0
   26    gir1.2-gtksource-3.0 gir1.2-keybinder-3.0 gir1.2-wnck-3.0
   27    gnome-accessibility-themes gnome-orca gnome-themes-standard
   28    gnome-themes-standard-data gtk2-engines-pixbuf hyphen-en-us
iputils-arping
   29    iw javascript-common libamd2.3.1 libao-common libao4 libass5
libatk-adaptor
   30    libaudio2 libavformat56 libbabl-0.1-0 libbasicusageenvironment0
   31    libbluetooth3 libbrlapi0.6 libcamd2.3.1 libccolamd2.8.0 libcddb2
   32    libcholmod2.1.2 libchromaprint0 libdc1394-22 libdca0
libdirectfb-1.2-9
   33    libdiscid0 libdotconf0 libdvbpsi9 libebml4 libenca0 libespeak1
libfaad2
   34    libflite1 libfreerdp-cache1.1 libfreerdp-client1.1
libfreerdp-codec1.1
   35    libfreerdp-common1.1.0 libfreerdp-core1.1 libfreerdp-crypto1.1
   36    libfreerdp-gdi1.1 libfreerdp-locale1.1 libfreerdp-primitives1.1
   37    libfreerdp-utils1.1 libgail-common libgail18 libgegl-0.2-0 libgimp2.0
   38    libgme0 libgpod-common libgpod4 libgroupsock4 libgtksourceview-3.0-1
   39    libgtksourceview-3.0-common libilmbase6 libiso9660-8 libjs-jquery
   40    libjs-sphinxdoc libjs-underscore libkate1 libkeybinder-3.0-0
   41    liblightdm-gobject-1-0 liblircclient0 liblivemedia42
liblouis-data liblouis2
   42    liblua5.2-0 libmatroska6 libmbim-glib4 libmbim-proxy libmm-glib0
libmng1
   43    libmodplug1 libmpcdec6 libmtp-common libmtp-runtime libmtp9 libndp0
   44    libnetfilter-conntrack3 libnl-3-200 libnl-genl-3-200
libnl-route-3-200
   45    libnm-glib-vpn1 libnm-glib4 libnm-gtk-common libnm-gtk0 libnm-util2
   46    libopenexr6 libopenraw1 libportaudio2 libpostproc53 libqmi-glib1
   47    libqmi-proxy libqt4-dbus libqt4-xml libqtcore4 libqtdbus4 libqtgui4
   48    libreoffice-gtk libresid-builder0c2a libsdl-image1.2 libsdl1.2debian
   49    libsgutils2-2 libshine3 libsidplay2 libsonic0 libspeechd2 libswscale3
   50    libteamdctl0 libtidy-0.99-0 libumfpack5.6.2 libupnp6
libusageenvironment2
   51    libva-drm1 libva-x11-1 libvcdinfo0 libvlc5 libvlccore8 libvncclient0
   52    libwinpr-crt0.1 libwinpr-crypto0.1 libwinpr-dsparse0.1
   53    libwinpr-environment0.1 libwinpr-file0.1 libwinpr-handle0.1
libwinpr-heap0.1
   54    libwinpr-input0.1 libwinpr-interlocked0.1 libwinpr-library0.1
   55    libwinpr-path0.1 libwinpr-pool0.1 libwinpr-registry0.1
libwinpr-rpc0.1
   56    libwinpr-sspi0.1 libwinpr-synch0.1 libwinpr-sysinfo0.1
libwinpr-thread0.1
   57    libwinpr-utils0.1 libwmf0.2-7 libwnck-3-0 libwnck-3-common
libxcb-composite0
   58    libxcb-keysyms1 libxcb-randr0 libxcb-xv0 lightdm lightdm-gtk-greeter
   59    media-player-info mobile-broadband-provider-info modemmanager
python-cddb
   60    python-feedparser python-musicbrainz2 python-mutagen python-pyinotify
   61    python-utidylib python3-brlapi python3-cairo python3-gi python3-louis
   62    python3-pyatspi python3-speechd python3-xdg qdbus qt-at-spi qtchooser
   63    qtcore4-l10n quodlibet speech-dispatcher
speech-dispatcher-audio-plugins
   64    task-desktop vlc vlc-data vlc-nox vlc-plugin-notify vlc-plugin-pulse
   65    wireless-regdb wpasupplicant xbrlapi xsane xsane-common