Other than propaganda and market manipulation, I don't see many other
methods with which you could influence bitcoin's demand.

However, I wouldn't use the word "control" for it.

Don't want to come through as a fundamentalist fanatic, but it seems to me
that bitcoin is far too big and decentralized by now to be controllable by
any entity in a very meaningful way. Wouldn't you say?

Yes, powerful humans can probably slow down bitcoin's adoption, but I don't
see an entity killing bitcoin any time soon (other than a civilization
extinguishing asteroid, supernova, or something of the sort).

And yes, I just smoked weed... I'll probably regret having written in this
state of mind in the near future...

Diego
On Jun 9, 2015 9:23 PM, "Troy Benjegerdes" <hozer@???> wrote:

> That's what 15% inflation is for.
>
> But we can't have that, can we, for Satoshi has spoken and limited
> supply is the one true cryptocoin that we must all worship.
>
> I think if we really want to burn the system, it's going to require
> a massive debt-strike until seigniorage is distributed as basic income
> instead of to the banks that create more debt. Bitcoin is a shiny
> deflationary distraction to keep us killing each other and feeding
> the army of undeabtors.
>
> I'm only half trolling. Why is it everyone rallies around bitcoin
> when there are far better money supply algorithms out there? The
> point, to me, of cryptocurrencies is any damn fool can hack out another
> altcoin.
>
> The question is: Is it simply a failure of imagination that we don't
> see more demurrage currencies like freicoin, or an active psy-ops
> and disinformation campaign by the dark lords of Debt, who by now
> have complete control of the bitcoin price by controlling the demand?
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 09, 2015 at 06:06:02AM +0000, Amir Taaki wrote:
> > why would you pay back your debt to a bunch of crook banks and thieves?
> >
> > borrow everything, buy bitcoins and declare bankruptcy all the way.
> > burn the system to the ground.
> >
> > snakecharmr:
> > >
> > >> The problem with America is too many goddamn libertarians who turn
> into communists the second
> > >> someone else has something they don't.
> > >>
> > >
> > > Haha, well said. Everybody wants freedom for themselves. The tyrant is
> > > just one who isn't willing to give it to anybody else.
> > >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On 06/08/2015 08:16 PM, Troy Benjegerdes wrote:
> > >>> And the army of undeabtors has struck back..
> > >>>
> > >>>
> http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2015/06/08/lee_siegel_new_york_times_op_ed_is_this_the_worst_op_ed_ever_written_about.html
> > >>>
> > >>> On Mon, Jun 08, 2015 at 10:55:22AM -0500, Troy Benjegerdes wrote:
> > >>>> (this writing is best had after watching the Game of Thrones
> episode 'Hardhome'[1])
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Why should one default and burn their student loans?
> > >>>>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/07/opinion/sunday/why-i-defaulted-on-my-student-loans.html?_r=0
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Student debt is the Night's king of our age. The more you battle to
> pay it off, the stronger it becomes, turning your fallen friends into
> undead wage-slaves.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> You cannot have a rational conversation with a wage slave, or most
> anyone in debt, for the things they bought with it take over their lives.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> You must be willing to burn the debt and all the things that came
> with it. But doing so alone is a fools errand, burning any path you may
> have to live free, ensuring, at best, a free death, after which any
> possessions you may still have will be raised from the dead to fight for
> the Night's debt army
> > >>>>
> > >>>> To be free, we must first be able to feed ourselves, educate
> ourselves, and freely share both food and information. Burning debt is not
> sufficient. We must plant seeds, and share the fruits of those seeds with
> anyone who may be hungry. The only way to fight the deabt is with gifts of
> abundant food, and the compost of the abundance after hunger is saited.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> [1]
> http://www.techtimes.com/articles/57683/20150606/game-of-thrones-who-is-the-nights-king-and-is-he-a-stark.htm
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