On Tue, May 05, 2015 at 05:53:28PM +0100, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Tue, May 05, 2015 at 12:35:57PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > On Tue, May 05, 2015 at 11:49:34AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Noel,
> > >
> > > Having any systemd-equipped Devuan packages means that I need to always
> > > be on my guard to prevent systemd from sneaking in.
> >
> > Could segregate the packages by putting them in another category, so
> > we'd have free, contrib, nonfree, systemd, ...
> >
>
> But guys, I thought that the challenge over here was to have a
> systemd-free system to start with, or not? I thought that there were a
> bunch of people out there trying their best to eradicate systemd from
> debian packages, making a lot of work to repackage everything as
> Devuan, a new systemd-free distribution...Or am I mistaken?
>
> IMHO anybody who wants systemd has plenty of good alternatives to
> choose from, without waiting for a new systemd-free GNU/Linux
> distribution to become usable. After all, what's the point of
> stubbornly wanting a systemd-free distro if in the end you are going
> to use systemd anyway?

Well, yes. I can imagine a systemd hater who discovers down the road
that he needs a package that's been comtaminated with systemd. Maybe
instead of going whole-hog systemd, which is that the other distros
force him to do, he can put up with systemd until that package hass
been cleaned out. And then ge rid of it again, with few other stray
dependencies getting in his way.

Now this scenario may seem a little far-fetched, but the trutrh is, I
can't imagine all the uses that knowledgable users will come up with.
I'm sure there's another possible reason that I'm not creative enough to
come up with.

Maybe he needs to be able to test whether software he's written will
work when systemd is present, just in case others want to use it on
other systems.

I still use Windows once every six months or so, though I'd prefer not
to have to, and normally use Linux for everything.

It's about freedom.

-- hendrik

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