On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 8:09 PM, Robert Storey <robert.storey@???> wrote:
>
>> Good point. But I thought the reason for the suggestion was because of
>> the amount of fairly useless chatter on this list that the devs have to
>> wade
>> through. (Honestly, it annoys me too.)

Sorry if I added to anyone's annoyance! I mistakenly thought there
probably already was a dev-only list somewhere.

And also, the bottom of the front page of http://devuan.org/ says this
list is the "General discussion" list, which I assumed meant
not-so-technical discussion was fine too, especially since I saw
various non-technical discussions already occurring.


I like the idea of a dev list, but I also like the idea of there being
a place for general discussions too, so devs and ordinary users can
all interact if we wish.

I'm also glad there is a forum: http://talk.devuan.org/

I actually prefer forums over mailing lists in general because forums
seem to be more organized, which makes it easier for people to avoid
anything they're uninterested in.

Perhaps I'll post there more than here in the future.

>> If there is a -dev list, I would
>> sign up
>> to see what's happening

Me too.

>> but it's unlikely I would participate because I'm
>> not really qualified to do so.

Same here, even though I can program a bit, and am learning more all the time.

> All good points. Just want to add though that probably one of the causes of
> all the idle chatter is that we in the audience don't yet have Devuan in our
> hot little hands, so we have no technical questions, no bug reports, etc.
> All we can do for entertainment chat about what Richard Stallman thinks of
> systemd, suggest that Pottering is evil, and enquire about when Devuan-alpha
> will be released. I try to avoid those silly discussions, but have
> occasionally broken down and participated.

I don't feel _too_ guilty about having participated in non-technical
discussions here, since this _is_ described on the front page of
http://devuan.org/ as the "General discussion" list.

But, again, I apologize if I annoyed anyone - even though as far as I
know, none of the discussions lately broke any official rules.

And, sorry if I'm mistaken and if any of the discussions actually did
break some rules I didn't know about.

> Once we have the alpha in our hot little hands, we can begin to discuss the
> real technology,

Yes, I look forward to that. :-)

> and stop wasting developers' time with trivia. And I may
> finally start my long-awaited project to help writing the documentation.
>
> cheers,
> Robert

I hope I'll be able to make myself useful too somehow.

Best wishes,
Apollia