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Author: Linuxito
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To: Nextime
CC: dng
Subject: Re: [Dng] rumors on RMS about systemd at libreplanet
Great reading. I knew RMS would answer something like that to that
question, if it's licensed under GPL, it's free software, period.

On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 12:41 PM, Nextime <nextime@???> wrote:

> On March 21, 2015 3:34:28 PM WET, Jaromil <jaromil@???> wrote:
> >
> >re all,
> >
> >perhaps interesting to perceive the atmosphere, no trolling intended
> >and please
> >consider we shall not fight, rather seek undersanding and claim respect
> >and the
> >right to have different opinions than "the majority".
> >
> >At Libreplanet (the GNU/FSF conference) today someone (who?? thanks for
> >that!)
> >asked RMS about what he thinks of systemd. Few of us can afford to be
> >there
> >however from a twit by FSF member John Sullivan I apprehend the Q&A:
> >
> >@johns_FSF
> >"RMS, do you have an opinion about systemd?" "No. I know it's free
> >software, so you can make your own opinion about it." #lp2015
> >
> >follows up Stefano Zacchiroli (former Debian leader and present board
> >member of OSI):
> >
> >@zacchiro
> >achievement unlocked: #systemd troll brilliantly averted by rms during
> >#libreplanet keynote
> >
> >a statement by a renown public speaker that clearly leads the public
> >perception
> >of someone making a question to RMS about systemd as being
> >automatically a
> >troll, just for the fact such a question is being asked.
> >
> >I've replied myself, via the @DevuanOrg twit account:
> >
> >is asking a question about #systemd now considered trolling? wow.
> >#minculpop
> >
> >also later asking John:
> >
> >did someone explained how #Hurd is affected?
> >https://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/open_issues/systemd.html … ...and
> >uclibc etc.
> >FWIW (no trolling intended)
> >
> >and I'm serious: I'd like to hear the *opinion* (which we are all free
> >to have)
> >of the GNU leaders on these matters, considering the aforementioned
> >implications, which I'm not sure RMS has acknowledged.
> >
> >I understand perfectly RMS answer above which is rather sane: he is
> >separating
> >the power of his role in that particular moment (setting the "ethical
> >bar" on
> >free software for people listening) with the fact we can all have
> >opinions.
> >This is something a good leader should do, rather than bully somoene
> >for making
> >an uncomfortable question....
> >
> >What I want to make here is an exortation to everyone reading: if we
> >really
> >think something needs to be done about systemd, please do your best in
> >putting
> >forward your opinion, avoiding to impose it or to aggressively wave it
> >in front
> >of everyone. If bullied please stand firmly by the right you have to
> >have a
> >different opinion and to debate it in the public. I think we need to
> >state this
> >because what Stefano and others are doing in this occasion is bullying
> >people
> >with different opinions, labeling them as trolls (and therefore enemies
> >of the
> >community) and ultimately denying there can even be a debate about
> >systemd,
> >spreading fear in anyone willing to debate it.
> >
> >I think this is totally unacceptable for a free society, that's why I
> >label it
> >as MinCulPop attitude, which ultimately was the fascist authority which
> >established what can be debated, something Italians remember very well:
> >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ministry_of_Popular_Culture
> >
> >ciao
> >
> >
> >--
> >Jaromil, Dyne.org Free Software Foundry (est. 2000)
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> Standing ovation jaro!
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