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Autor: Jude Nelson
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A: Anto
Cc: dng@lists.dyne.org
Asunto: Re: [Dng] Devuan commitments - will trade-off be applied?
That's very interesting. Devuan's dbus shouldn't depend on libsystemd0 at
all (it builds and runs without it); if it is pulling in libsystemd0 as a
dependency, then there's a bug in our dbus package.

Can you show me the output of:

$ aptitude show dbus
$ apt-cache rdepends dbus

Also, if it is convenient, can you download (but not install) dbus, extract
the package, and run "ldd" on dbus-daemon to see whether or not the binary
accidentally got compiled to link against libsystemd0?

Thanks,
Jude

On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 3:33 AM, Anto <aryanto@???> wrote:

> On 18/03/15 00:56, Jude Nelson wrote:
>
>> Hi Anto,
>>
>> I think the plan is to make the installation of all systemd components
>> optional. The packages in git.devuan.org <http://git.devuan.org>that
>> are cloned from Debian's sources have build flags set automatically to
>> compile out systemd dependencies, for example.
>>
>> If you're wondering what's pulling in libsystemd0 in your above example,
>> you could run "aptitude why libsystemd0" to find out what's pulling it in.
>> If it's a package in Devuan pulling it in, please let us know!
>>
>> -Jude
>>
>
> Hello Jude,
>
> I don't think "aptitude why libsystemd0" provide reliable information
> about the package dependency. It shows indeed which package depends on
> other package, but it checks the list on the repository instead of the ones
> that are going to be installed and upgraded. As you can see below,
> "knot-libs" depends on libsystemd0 but it is not on the list of the
> packages that are going to be installed or upgraded.
>
> root@v01:/etc/apt# apt-get update
> Get:1 http://apt.devuan.org jessie InRelease [13.3 kB]
> Get:2 http://apt.devuan.org jessie/main i386 Packages [8,251 kB]
> Ign http://apt.devuan.org jessie/main Translation-en_US
> Ign http://apt.devuan.org jessie/main Translation-en
> Fetched 8,264 kB in 6s (1,319 kB/s)
> Reading package lists... Done
> root@v01:/etc/apt#
> root@v01:/etc/apt# apt-get -u dist-upgrade
> Reading package lists... Done
> Building dependency tree
> Reading state information... Done
> Calculating upgrade... The following packages were automatically installed
> and are no longer required:
>   libgd2-xpm libice6 libmagickcore5 libmagickwand5 libsm6 libxt6 x11-common
> Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
> Done
> The following NEW packages will be installed:
>   init-system-helpers libapparmor1 libestr0 libfftw3-double3 libjson-c2
> liblogging-stdlog0 liblognorm1 libmagickcore-6.q16-2 libmagickwand-6.q16-2
> libsystemd0 libudev1 openssh-sftp-server
>   php5-json startpar
> The following packages will be upgraded:
>   anacron at bsdutils consolekit cron dbus dmsetup dpkg dpkg-dev
> initscripts libck-connector0 libdbus-glib-1-2 libdevmapper1.02.1
> libdpkg-perl libgnutls-deb0-28 libgnutls-openssl27
>   libpam-ck-connector libpolkit-gobject-1-0 logrotate openssh-client
> openssh-server php5-cli php5-common php5-fpm php5-gd php5-imagick
> php5-sqlite rsyslog ssh sysv-rc sysvinit
>   sysvinit-utils udev uuid-runtime
> 34 upgraded, 14 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
> Need to get 19.5 MB of archives.
> After this operation, 21.2 MB of additional disk space will be used.
> Do you want to continue? [Y/n] n
> Abort.
> root@v01:/etc/apt#
> root@v01:/etc/apt# aptitude why libsystemd0
> p   knot-dnsutils Provides dnsutils
> p   knot-dnsutils Depends  knot-libs (= 1.6.0-1)
> p   knot-libs     Depends  libsystemd0
> root@v01:/etc/apt#

>
> I usually check the package dependency using "apt-cache depends".
>
> Amongst the packages that are going be installed and upgraded, only the
> following 3 packages directly depend on libsystemd0:
>
> - dbus
> - libpolkit-gobject-1-0 (required by consolekit)
> - php5-fpm
>
> I am quite sure that those packages were pulled from Devuan repository as
> it is the only repository on my source.list.
>
> If I may ask to request, I would prefer "init-system-helpers" to be
> excluded from the dependency of all packages because it is clearly the
> helper for systemd init only. So it should not be in Devuan if Devuan would
> not provide systemd init (which I really hope would be the case).
>
> The following packages from the above list directly depend on
> init-system-helpers:
>
> - anacron
> - at
> - cron
> - openssh-server
> - php5-fpm
> - rsyslog
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Anto
>
>