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Author: Gravis
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To: Martijn Dekkers
CC: dng
Subject: Re: [Dng] Plan for Devuan to use Mozilla products as is
as a matter of fact, it is!
http://www.moongiant.com/Full_Moon_New_Moon_Calendar.php

the good news is that friday the 13th wont coincide with a full moon
for another 34 years. turns out, the last one was this past June.

- Gravis


On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 2:41 PM, Martijn Dekkers
<devuan-list1@???> wrote:
> **Looks around**
>
> Full moon tonight?
>
> On 5 March 2015 at 19:51, <miroslav.rovis1@???> wrote:
>>
>> I want to add my thoughts and feelings to this conversation.
>>
>> But since this is my first message to this list, here're a few links of
>> my tips, user-to-user (I'm not an expert and I'm just a fraction of a
>> programmer if at all), [user-to-user] tips:
>>
>> Grsecurity/Pax installation on Debian GNU/Linux
>> http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=108616
>>
>> How to Remove Systemd and Related Packages from Your Debian
>> http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=118197
>>
>> How to avoid stealth installation of systemd?
>> http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=116770
>>
>> And I'll stick one link below exactly where there is a special line, in
>> this
>> thread I'm replying to, that touched a nerve in my guts.
>>
>> But I am more of a Gentoo user still (since 2008, Debian since 2013 I
>> think).
>> Such as:
>>
>> Air-Gapped Gentoo Install, Tentative
>> https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-987268.html
>>
>> Uninstalling dbus and *kits (to Unfacilitate Remote Seats)
>> https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-992146.html
>>
>> I'm not giving you those links for no reason. While I am not a
>> programmer, or am just minimally one, I have extensive user (of late it
>> has become advanced user) experience with censorship and even
>> surveillance that a user, in a country ruled by a regime, is exposed to
>> (have unveiled it for everybody to see, and will give another two links
>> below exactly where there is a special line that touched a nerve in my
>> guts).
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 03:28:59AM -0500, Gravis wrote:
>> > Nik, please remove yourself from the mailing list.
>> > --Gravis
>> Completely wrong, as attitude and even as merely a wish! Somebody stated
>> elsewhere in these few days on this list: it's free software, and it's
>> open source! Contrary from banning other people's opinions, we must
>> allow them.
>>
>> I agree completely with Nick, but I won't jump on you
>> Gravis, as I don't jump on some Gentoo members who, well, support NSA,
>> and troll against me... I'll let them like SELinux, Google and other
>> stuff which I despise! As long as they let me tell other members what I
>> think and suggest of SELinux, Google and stuff! And tell what I advise
>> that they use and generally do!
>>
>> >
>> > On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 3:11 AM, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp <dr.klepp@???>
>> > wrote:
>> > > Am Donnerstag, 5. März 2015 schrieb Gravis:
>> > >> > Here is just one example of what I am referring to.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jun/06/us-tech-giants-nsa-data
>> > >>
>> > >> yeah, if you actually read the article you will learn that google
>> > >> (like everyone else) complies with the law. if you look further, you
>> > >> learn that the NSA tapped private fiber lines for both google and
>> > >> yahoo. so what exactly did google do to offend you?
>>
>> Don't know about Nick, but I can tell what they did to offend *me*:
>>
>> Really? The Surveillance Engine Terminated All My Videos
>> http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=113059
>>
>> And this is where they let the local regime do what they like against
>> me:
>>
>> a clickjacking that only packets captured show:
>> Postfix smtp/TLS, Bkp/Cloning Mthd, Censorship/Intrusion
>> https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-999436.html#7685200
>>
>> and:
>>
>> brute mess-up of my connection:
>> Air-Gapped Gentoo Install, Tentative
>> https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-987268-start-25.html#7552466
>> (identified the files right after it happened back in 2014, revealed all
>> only
>> these days)
>>
>> How about that, Gravis? The good do-no-evil Google? Ruining 5 yrs of my
>> work?
>> And the other two links are just samples of pranks and filthy routines
>> from my nearly everyday life with my dear regime online?
>>
>> NOTE: All the links above I've checked before posting, barring future
>> double-check report on any that was not right, further down this email
>> thread. For future readers from the archives.
>> > >>is your
>> > >> objection that they were hacked by the NSA or that they strong armed
>> > >> by the NSA?
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> > > reporting child pornography to the FBI as legally required by
>> > >> > > law?
>> > >> > I don't understand where you got child pornography from.
>> > >>
>> > >> you wrote "considering their ties to government agencies" and the FBI
>> > >> is a government agency.
>> > >> --Gravis
>> > >
>> > > Sorry, no. FBI, NSA and US as a whole is a hostile government.
>> > > Cooperation is forbidden by law (at least for normal citizens). Please do a
>> > > realitycheck outside US.
>> > >
>> Right! Cooperation is against Free Open Source Software natural laws and
>> declared customs!
>>
>> > > Nik
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also
>> > > sharing with the NSA.
>> > >
>> I really like this line!
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>> Pls. bear in mind, if I'm missing to reply to you (but I might be late,
>> my health is unstable and I generally work slowly, old age)... [If I'm
>> missing to reply to you], it could be another prank of my dear regime...
>>
>> And greetings here to golinux, who is a fine person, and you know,
>> golinux, I miss edbarx, keithpeter and other who conversed met with on
>> Debian Forums, and I hope many of them will soon join us in Devuan.
>> --
>> Miroslav Rovis
>> Zagreb, Croatia
>> http://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr
>>
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