Perl and TK depreciating / becoming incompatable with code within the "same" stable release.
(Oh and ngcurses got an "update" too, where the routines for writing to a file from curses script dissappeared)
That is unacceptable, insane. TK!
TK is only use for sysadmin type guis, and sometimes configuring a makefile.

(This is why bastille linux "doesn't work" anymore: what the script does is still relevant, but the code it relys on (perl and tk/ncurses) has "rotted": ie intentionally been changed/broken by new assholes)

It should never have "depreciated" features, or removed things.

Our house is being destroyed, ON PURPOSE, beneath us.

Devuan needs to become the rock that linux once was.
It needs to HALT "development".

--- christoph.lechleitner@??? wrote:

From: Christoph Lechleitner <christoph.lechleitner@???>
To: usspookslovesystemda@???
Subject: Re: [Dng] John Goerzen asks, "Has modern Linux lost its way?"
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 17:37:11 +0100

Am 2015-02-11 um 17:29 schrieb Usspookes Lovesystemd:
> Answer: Yes
>
> Case in point: /etc/profile
>
> "# The default umask is now handled by pam_umask.
> # See pam_umask(8) and /etc/login.defs.
> "
>
> Perl+TK gui scripts from 2012 (that's only THREE years ago)

Nice ;-(

A "nice" systemd feature we recently detected:
The parameters and behaviour of /sbin/shutdown changed. For the first
time in decades.


> not working under debian stable anymore (when they worked under 7.1, 7.2, 7.3 etc... but not 7.8... yes that's "stable" distro there).

Wheezy has seen a couple PiTAs of this kind.


> You people here also use the excuse "that's a decade out of date,

You know what's out of date?
Your tone ;-)


VUAs will of course not make such changes if there is no really good
reason, and your example shows again that Debian has lost some of it's way.


Regards Christoph





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