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Auteur: Julia Tourianski
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Aan: System undo crew
Onderwerp: Re: [unSYSTEM] Silk Road Trial is starting.
He was confident because "I have an answer for everything"

unfortunately the defense was not allowed to present half of their evidence
, and half of their witnesses were not allowed to speak either.

His fait was sealed before it even started.
On Feb 5, 2015 10:17 PM, "Juan S. Galt" <eljuangalt@???> wrote:

> I've yet to look a the evidence presented at the trial, havn't had time.
> However, the CIA has admitted to false flag operations and Its hard to
> argue that it is above them to do such a thing in this case, particularly
> given how the Silk Road arguable threatens the status quo in regards to the
> war on drugs.
>
> So, without looking at the evidence, my loyalty is with Ross. However, if
> those threats were indeed made, and Ross made them, than yes, that alone
> would deserve moral judgment and appropriate social action.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 7:57 PM, Mathias Groennebaek <mathias@???>
> wrote:
>
>> Have I missed something, or did the defence not really provide any
>> particular proof of Ross not having ordered the hit on several people? And
>> if so, why is it so hard to understand why he has been convicted, when
>> there is an ample amount of proof that he did indeed do so?
>> From a moral perspective, anyone involved in a murder should in my honest
>> opinion be convicted of their crimes. The silk road trial and a discussion
>> in general about drugs and their legality is a separate matter entirely to
>> me.
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 9:39 AM, Juan S. Galt <eljuangalt@???>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Anyone with enough mind to think about it for a few minutes knows this
>>> trial has been rigged from the start.
>>>
>>> "It is important to note that since there is no victim to Ross’s
>>> alleged illegal activity this court case is not founded on contract law.
>>> And given the 500+ variations of cannabis that was traded on the Silk Road,
>>> it’s hard to say it was even anti-democratic with the plant being one of
>>> the most popular recreational and medicinal drugs, which after decades of
>>> controversy remains illegal."
>>>
>>>
>>> http://cointelegraph.com/news/113393/dread-pirate-roberts-imprisonment-vs-innovation-op-ed
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 7:24 PM, Brian Hoffman <brian@???>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Touche
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 4, 2015, at 8:23 PM, Cody R Wilson <codywilson@???>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> What's reddit?
>>>> On Feb 4, 2015 7:22 PM, "Brian Hoffman" <brian@???> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Meh it's just fun times. Don't tell me all the Reddit babble has you
>>>>> rattled. I'm just messing with you.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 4, 2015, at 8:18 PM, Cody R Wilson <codywilson@???>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey Brian, if I don't know better I'd say you were being snide.
>>>>> On Feb 4, 2015 7:10 PM, "Brian Hoffman" <brian@???> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> And he endorses you for Bitcoin Foundation board as a result of your
>>>>>> support.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 4, 2015, at 8:04 PM, Cody R Wilson <codywilson@???>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As I've said before, I support him because of what he is accused. Not
>>>>>> despite it.
>>>>>> On Feb 4, 2015 7:02 PM, "Adam B. Levine" <adam@???>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Does whether or not Ross did what he is being accused of and tried
>>>>>>> for, matter?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Adam B. Levine
>>>>>>> Editor-in-Chief
>>>>>>> Let's Talk Bitcoin! <http://www.letstalkbitcoin.com/>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 3:40 PM, Julia Tourianski <
>>>>>>> juliatourianski@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I watched his father breakdown on the phone with Ross's sister and
>>>>>>>> my world has been frozen since that moment. I cannot imagine their pain
>>>>>>>> even after witnessing it. His mother is staying very strong, it's not over
>>>>>>>> for her.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> One of the jury members was smiling when they announced it. I'm so
>>>>>>>> disappointed in the basic nature of the common, the "Justice" machine did
>>>>>>>> its job today. ..
>>>>>>>> On Feb 4, 2015 5:42 PM, "Cody R Wilson" <codywilson@???>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Take heart. We knew this part was likely. We find the real battle
>>>>>>>>> in challenging the US' acquisition of the server info.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Can't argue the facts, but we can put them to proof on the law.
>>>>>>>>> On Feb 4, 2015 4:40 PM, "Alicia Cruz" <accruz44@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> :(
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 4:31 PM, Matt <millsdmb@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Guilty on all charges :(:(
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 23, 2015 12:49 PM, "Andrew Miller" <amiller@???>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> > um by the way, did anyone notice what is happening in Puerto
>>>>>>>>>>>> Rico with
>>>>>>>>>>>> > the Bitcoin Foundation and that ZeroCash project, which did
>>>>>>>>>>>> present at
>>>>>>>>>>>> > the prior FinCrypto, is noticeably ABSENT from this upcoming
>>>>>>>>>>>> one? See:
>>>>>>>>>>>> > http://fc15.ifca.ai (yeah, interesting read)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think your point is that because there's no research paper
>>>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>>> Zerocash or an extension being presented at FC or the bitcoin
>>>>>>>>>>>> workshop, that it might be being squelched/unwelcome somehow by
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> foundation influence there? That's not the case... members of
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> zerocash team will be there and will probably present a
>>>>>>>>>>>> development
>>>>>>>>>>>> update of some kind at the rump session.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think you're also suggesting that because the Bitcoin
>>>>>>>>>>>> Foundation is
>>>>>>>>>>>> a sponsor of the FC conference that it's corrupted by it's
>>>>>>>>>>>> influence.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think that's the case... it's an academic research
>>>>>>>>>>>> conference,
>>>>>>>>>>>> a panel of researchers reviews (blindedly) the papers that
>>>>>>>>>>>> anyone can
>>>>>>>>>>>> submit, and selects the ones that are technically best. I
>>>>>>>>>>>> haven't seen
>>>>>>>>>>>> any evidence of corruption in this process but I'd be happy to
>>>>>>>>>>>> answer
>>>>>>>>>>>> any questions you have about it. This conference originated
>>>>>>>>>>>> during the
>>>>>>>>>>>> first crypto wars, when cryptography was on the verge becoming
>>>>>>>>>>>> illegal; kowtowing to anti-privacy interested would be perverse
>>>>>>>>>>>> against its culture. Also there's a session in the bitcoin
>>>>>>>>>>>> workshop
>>>>>>>>>>>> about (improving) Bitcoin privacy.
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://fc15.ifca.ai/bitcoin/schedule.html
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