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Author: Mike Gogulski
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To: System undo crew
Subject: Re: [unSYSTEM] Silk Road Trial is starting.
Beware of Olivier Janssens:
https://bitcoinfoundation.org/forum/index.php?/topic/1186-candidate-olivier-janssens/#entry12821

On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 10:53 PM, Julia Tourianski <
juliatourianski@???> wrote:

> Amir (regarding karpeles and hits comment):
> https://twitter.com/olivierjanss/status/555889044618346498
>
> I made sure he got directly in touch with the defence.
>
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> For the secrets and lies, my PGP key:
> https://libbitcoin.dyne.org/julia_tourianski.pgp.asc
>
> On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 7:50 AM, Amir Taaki <genjix@???> wrote:
>
>> I do think Mark would be the type to order hits, not Ross. I saw an old
>> interview and he doesn't have that temperament.
>>
>> On 01/16/2015 03:09 AM, Julia Tourianski wrote:
>> > The entire thing has been shocking from the first day. Wish you guys
>> > could be in the court with us. Nothing quite like watching it in person.
>> >
>> > On Jan 15, 2015 6:51 PM, "Amir Taaki" <genjix@???
>> > <mailto:genjix@riseup.net>> wrote:
>> >
>> >     They're making a go of it.
>> >     Before the PKK was seeking legal recognition for Kurds to be given a
>> >     seat in the UN (de jure). But then in the 90s they increasingly
>> adopted
>> >     anti-state ideas and now they're more into making a confederation of
>> >     autonomous cities/towns/regions, and operating decentralised as an
>> >     independent nation (de facto). They're trying to create localised
>> >     administration with staying power against central authorities.

>> >
>> >     On 01/16/2015 12:41 AM, brian@???
>> >     <mailto:brian@openbazaar.org> wrote:
>> >     > So is Rojava going to be a new country or what?
>> >     >

>> >     >

>> >     >
>> >     >     ----- Original Message -----
>> >     >     From:
>> >     >     "System undo crew" <unsystem@???
>> >     <mailto:unsystem@lists.dyne.org>>

>> >     >
>> >     >     To:
>> >     >     <unsystem@??? <mailto:unsystem@lists.dyne.org>>

>>
>> >     >     Cc:
>> >     >
>> >     >     Sent:
>> >     >     Fri, 16 Jan 2015 00:25:12 +0100
>> >     >     Subject:
>> >     >     Re: [unSYSTEM] Silk Road Trial is starting.

>> >     >

>> >     >
>> >     >     goes to show that with 7 billion individuals, anything can
>> >     happen. I was
>> >     >     certain kobane was going to fall within a week and it's been
>> >     months.
>> >     >     whether this is true or not, it's another reminder to give me
>> >     confidence
>> >     >     in the power for individuals.

>> >     >
>> >     >     btw this is a crazy day:

>> >     >
>> >     >     * 3 people shot dead in belgian by anti-terror police.

>> >     >
>> >     >     * David Cameron seeks cooperation of US president over
>> encryption
>> >     >     crackdown:

>> >     >

>> >
>> http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jan/15/david-cameron-ask-us-barack-obama-help-tracking-islamist-extremists-online
>> >     >     this comes after cameron's speech after the paris shootings
>> about
>> >     >     banning end to end encryption (making software like
>> Darkwallet or
>> >     >     OpenBazaar illegal):
>> >     >     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_kqM0gn63M
>> >     >
>> >     >     * 2 italian girls captured in syria are freed after italian
>> >     government
>> >     >     pays a ransom of $12 million to the jihadis:

>> >     >

>> >
>> http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/15/two-italian-aid-workers-freed-syria
>> >     >     here's the earlier article with their picture:
>> >     >

>> >
>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2724701/Two-Italian-aid-workers-kidnapped-Islamist-militants-Syria-ignoring-parents-pleas-not-go.html
>> >     >
>> >     >     * Joint statement by the academic delegation who went to
>> Rojava is
>> >     >     released talking about their experience and describing the
>> >     >     revolution there:

>> >     >
>> http://roarmag.org/2015/01/statement-academic-delegation-rojava/

>> >     >
>> >     >     On 01/16/2015 12:12 AM, Mark Lamb wrote:
>> >     >     > When everyone made the point that "This trial is going to be
>> >     hugely
>> >     >     > important for the history of the internet" I completely
>> >     agreed with
>> >     >     > them. This trial is absolutely vital. However I didn't think
>> >     it could
>> >     >     > possibly go well!! Seems like it's going positively so far?

>> >     >     >
>> >     >     > On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 11:09 PM, Charlie 'Charles' Shrem
>> >     >     > <cshrem@??? <mailto:cshrem@gmail.com>
>> >     <mailto:cshrem@gmail.com <mailto:cshrem@gmail.com>>> wrote:

>> >     >     >
>> >     >     > I remember when they thought I was DPR, I was like "bitch
>> >     please,
>> >     >     > I'm not smart enough for that"

>> >     >     >
>> >     >     > On Thursday, January 15, 2015, Mark Lamb
>> >     <markdavidlamb@??? <mailto:markdavidlamb@gmail.com>
>> >     >     > <mailto:markdavidlamb@gmail.com
>> >     <mailto:markdavidlamb@gmail.com>>> wrote:

>> >     >     >
>> >     >     > You beat me to posting that quote!

>> >     >     >
>> >     >     > This is so bizarre...

>> >     >     >
>> >     >     > Fascinating trial to follow!

>> >     >     >
>> >     >     > On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 11:04 PM, Amir Taaki
>> >     <genjix@??? <mailto:genjix@riseup.net>>
>> >     >     > wrote:

>> >     >     >
>> >     >     > Myth and legend enters history,
>> >     >     > The Story of Dread Pirate Roberts
>> >     >     > <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHZGqBVBCRw>

>> >     >     >

>> >     >     >
>> >     >     > On 01/15/2015 11:59 PM, Brian Hoffman wrote:
>> >     >     > > Willy Bot Has now been implicated as DPR...

>> >     >     > >
>> >     >     > > On Jan 15, 2015, at 5:56 PM, Charlie 'Charles' Shrem
>> >     >     <cshrem@??? <mailto:cshrem@gmail.com>
>> >     >     > > <mailto:cshrem@gmail.com <mailto:cshrem@gmail.com>>>
>> wrote:

>> >     >     > >
>> >     >     > >> Whoa!

>> >     >     > >>
>> >     >     > >> "Mutum Sigilum, a Karpeles holding company, had
>> registered
>> >     >     > >> silkroadmarket.org <http://silkroadmarket.org>
>> >     <http://silkroadmarket.org>
>> >     >     > <http://silkroadmarket.org> as a means to publicize
>> >     >     > >> the site further."

>> >     >     > >>

>> >     >     > >>

>> >     >

>> >
>> http://www.dailydot.com/crime/ross-ulbricht-silk-road-mark-karpales-fbi/
>> >     >     > >>
>> >     >     > >> On Thursday, January 15, 2015, Amir Taaki
>> >     <genjix@??? <mailto:genjix@riseup.net>
>> >     >     > >> <mailto:genjix@riseup.net <mailto:genjix@riseup.net>>>
>> wrote:

>> >     >     > >>
>> >     >     > >> speechless

>> >     >     > >>

>> >     >     > >>

>> >     >

>> >
>> http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2sjuvu/defense_in_silk_road_trial_arguing_mark_karpeles/cnq7f3i
>> >     >     > >>
>> >     >     > >> On 01/15/2015 11:09 PM, Alicia Cruz wrote:
>> >     >     > >> > whoa! plot twist! so karpeles is dpr!?

>> >     >     > >> >
>> >     >     > >> > On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 7:18 AM, Jaromil
>> >     <jaromil@??? <mailto:jaromil@dyne.org>
>> >     >     > >> <javascript:;>
>> >     >     > >> > <mailto:jaromil@dyne.org <mailto:jaromil@dyne.org>
>> >     <javascript:;>>> wrote:

>> >     >     > >> >

>> >     >     > >> >

>> >     >     > >> >
>> >     >     > >> > On 8 January 2015 13:32:53 CET, Aaron van Wirdum
>> >     >     > >> > <aaronbitcoining@???
>> >     <mailto:aaronbitcoining@gmail.com> <javascript:;>
>> >     >     > >> <mailto:aaronbitcoining@gmail.com

>>
>> >     <mailto:aaronbitcoining@gmail.com> <javascript:;>>> wrote:
>> >     >     > >> >

>> >     >     > >> >
>> >     >     > >> > >As for the line drawn between private property and
>> >     >     > >> resources, IIRC this
>> >     >     > >> > >line is drawn at *natural* resources, hence,
>> >     >     > kind of the
>> >     >     > >> > >geo-libertarian
>> >     >     > >> > >ideal. But perhaps someone with more knowledge
>> >     >     > on this
>> >     >     > >> subject can
>> >     >     > >> > >confirm
>> >     >     > >> > >(or deny) this?

>> >     >     > >> >

>> >     >     > >> >
>> >     >     > >> > some relevant literature on the topic of
>> >     >     > "managing the
>> >     >     > >> commons" was
>> >     >     > >> > written by Elinor Ostrom. FWIW she also won a
>> >     >     > nobel prize for it

>> >     >     > >> >
>> >     >     > >> > ciao
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>> >     >     > >>
>> >     >     > >> --
>> >     >     > >> Thanks,

>> >     >     > >>
>> >     >     > >> Charlie

>> >     >     > >>
>> >     >     > >> CharlieShrem.com <http://CharlieShrem.com> | /Please
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>> >     >     >

>> >     >     >
>> >     >     > --
>> >     >     > Thanks,

>> >     >     >
>> >     >     > Charlie

>> >     >     >
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