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Autor: Martinx - ジェームズ
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To: T.J. Duchene
CC: dng@lists.dyne.org
Betreff: Re: [Dng] sugestion apulse as pulseaudio replcement
You're absolutely right!! I'm sorry... And I got it... Happy new year!!

On 26 December 2014 at 15:58, T.J. Duchene <t.j.duchene@???> wrote:

>
> On 12/25/2014 9:15 PM, Martinx - ジェームズ wrote:
>
> Can you guys believe this:
>
> A Desktop with 6G of RAM running Ubuntu 14.10 with systemd + pulseaudio:
>
>
> USER       PID %CPU *%MEM*    VSZ   RSS TTY      STAT START   TIME COMMAND
> userzyx   25830   0.3    *75.0*   6171772 4487884 ?     S<l  Dez16  46:11
> /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog

>
>
> Pulseaudio is consuming *75% of my RAM MEMORY!!!* WTF IS THIS THING??!!!
> And I'm not playing a single music!
>
> Let's play devil's advocate for just a moment. Don't misunderstand me.
> I'm all for hating crappy code, but let's hate with good reason and
> precision.
>
>
> Why are you comparing metrics on an unstable version of the OS? Ubuntu
> clearly states that the non-LTS releases are intended for developers and
> early adopters only. You will have bugs when you use a version of the OS
> that isn't properly vetted and released every 6 months, come what may. The
> cause of this issue could be anything, including the underlying ALSA stack,
> or a library that PA is linked to, maybe even memory pages requested by
> your DE interface to PA. Do you have actual evidence that PA is the real
> culprit, say a stack trace?
>
> I remember at least one case of where I traced audio problems, not to PA,
> but a bad codec used by gstreamer.
>
>
>   I still do not believe that Debian was taken over by the shit that come
> out of Lennart / RedHat (sorry about the bad words). And the Linux
> community will put almost all the eggs into the systemd basket!! For God's
> sake, what a fuck is wrong with those people??? Well, I really don't care
> anymore, we have Devuan! YAY!    ^_^

>
> Before you blame Poettering or RedHat you should make sure that they
> are actually to blame for your problem. To my knowledge, Poettering
> doesn't work on PA as much these days.
>
>
>
>
> I was trusting my professional life on Debian team and now, this crap...
> The good of open source is that we have the power to make forks... Whew!
>
> Ubuntu is not Debian. Not by a long shot. Ubuntu is a version of Debian
> Unstable, which should never be used on serious work.
>
>
>
> Lets include apulse and also, jackd. And *kick* pulseaudio alongside
> with systemd.
>
> Honestly, I don't even care anymore about systemd, neither as an option,
> it is impossible to trust on this thing, because of Lennart past projects
> (and obvious, because of systemd terrible / creepy architecture). I still
> open to uselessd + new udev, if it make easier to keep compatibility with
> upstream Debian while we need to keep syncing with it. Also, I like the
> idea of CGroup Process, if uselessd can achieve that (i.e, control/isolate
> process using Linux CGroups), then, it is a great thing! There are space
> for a new Init System and systemd is NOT it.
>
>
> Dropping code because of the dislike one person without making sure that
> you can build your entire tree first without it, is not a sensible thing to
> do. It is not in the best interests of users.
>
>
> Happy new year! :-)
>
> Likewise!
>
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