On 12/20/2014 6:35 PM, Ruben Safir wrote:
> as anyone know, I hate what systemd has done to the GNU/Linux ecosystem
> however one project that is put together in order to work out a system
> without systemd, http://debianfork.org/, Devuan, really needs to be
> avoided, at least unless some responsibly leadership emergers.
>

Frankly, all I am here to do is chat code with people on the list,
unless I see or hear of some actual development. The VUA's private
lives, politics and personal business is none of my affair.

As far as Devuan, I have been here for only a short time, and I have yet
to see a really solid plan come out of the people in charge. Mostly, I
see interim chat and silence. I understand that these things take time,
and so I am waiting to see if something actually comes out of all of the
talk.

For the present, I am content to see if Devuan really develops. If you
prefer honesty - given the lack of direct communication on the subject
or state of actual Devuan development, I do not plan to be here
indefinitely.

T.J.