If you people at GNOME spent more time listening to your users and making
your code init system and bad middleware agnostic rather than attacking any
and all criticism it would be a lot better for all parties concerned.
You want some concrete criticism, here is some:

The new tablet-esque "metaphor" you saddled users with.
Since 3.0 GNOME is a lot slower.
Tons of other useless features.
GDM's reliance on systemd's accountsservice (just to name one of many,
mainly because there have been bugs open for years about that even in
Fedora's bug tracker.)and disregard for anything that is not Linux with
systemd.

Stop trolling on the internet and start doing some actually useful work.
On Dec 5, 2014 3:35 PM, "Olav Vitters" <olav@???> wrote:

> On Fri, Dec 05, 2014 at 02:54:09PM +0200, Vlad wrote:
> > I would propose that we do not waste any time with GDM, GNOME or
> > anything else that has sprung out of that irresponsible organizations
> > other than gtk.
>
> There's so much hate going on in within Devuan, it is rather ridiculous.
> This is a public mailing list!
>
> To nobody in specific: If there are needs with concrete technical
> solutions and a willingness to commit, feel free to have a discussion
> with either release-team@??? or on desktop-devel-list@???.
>
> You can also choose to continue with hate, assuming the worst from
> anyone and assume it's just a case of packaging things differently while
> demand work to "happen".
>
> Devuan is very young so there's a lot of leeway. Concretely: this is an
> open email that GNOME is totally ok with technical discussions. I do
> assume it'll be with people who did a proper analysis and without the
> hate.
>
> Note: Willingness to commit I mean that if there's work to be done, the
> proposer ensures it'll get done plus takes responsibility for
> maintenance.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Olav (GNOME release team)
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