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Author: Roberto Celeste
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To: dng
Subject: Re: [Dng] Dng Digest, Vol 3, Issue 29
Devuan is perfect imho ...

Il giorno Tue Dec 02 2014 at 8:41:56 AM <dng-request@???> ha
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>    1. Re: Devuan Logo (Francesco Il Parente)
>    2. Re: Devuan Logo (Dmitry Yu Okunev)
>    3. Re: Devuan Logo (Dmitry Yu Okunev)
>    4. Re: Devuan Logo (Peter (peabo) Olson)
>    5. Re: Devuan Logo (Dr. Nikolaus Klepp)
>    6. Re: Devuan Logo (Ing. Mattia Munari - Uptime Varese s.r.l.)
>    7. Re: Devuan Logo (mutek)
>    8. Re: Devuan Logo [NOT name issues] (chris)

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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2014 07:08:17 +0100
> From: Francesco Il Parente <cardifrancesco@???>
> To: dng@???
> Subject: Re: [Dng] Devuan Logo
> Message-ID: <93c218f3edce39968b67072ccfb63d1f@???>
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>
> >>> More names:
> >>>
> >>> FreeDeb
> >>> Freebian (sound similar to "tr?s bien" = "Very good" in french)
> >>> DebChoice
> >>> DebChois
> >>> DebLiber (Liber = Free in Latin, so it's the source of words as
> >>> "Libertad" or "Libert?" ("Freedom" in Spanish and French
> >>> respectively)
> >>> LiberDeb
> >>> OpenDeb
> >>> DebLin
> >>> DebPlus
> >>> ReDeb (talking about restart or reboot)
> >>> DebRest
>
>
> I propose FreeStar name
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2014 09:33:50 +0300
> From: Dmitry Yu Okunev <dyokunev@???>
> To: dng@???
> Subject: Re: [Dng] Devuan Logo
> Message-ID: <547D5D4E.7020204@???>
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> Hello.
>
> On 12/02/2014 09:08 AM, Francesco Il Parente wrote:
> >
> >>>> More names:
> >>>>
> >>>> FreeDeb
> >>>> Freebian (sound similar to "tr?s bien" = "Very good" in french)
> >>>> DebChoice
> >>>> DebChois
> >>>> DebLiber (Liber = Free in Latin, so it's the source of words as
> >>>> "Libertad" or "Libert?" ("Freedom" in Spanish and French respectively)
> >>>> LiberDeb
> >>>> OpenDeb
> >>>> DebLin
> >>>> DebPlus
> >>>> ReDeb (talking about restart or reboot)
> >>>> DebRest
> >
> >
> > I propose FreeStar name
>
> Sorry for my language skills, I'm Russian and English is not my native
> language. Nevertheless _IMHO_:
>
> Firstly, you shouldn't mention Linux in the name of the project (e.g.
> "DebLin"). It's a lock-in on Linux kernel. So it should be used "Lin" in
> the name.
>
> Secondly, you should respect history of Debian, so the name should
> reflect this aspect. For example, the ending "ian" can be used to
> emphasize this.
>
> Thirdly, the name shouldn't conflict with "Debian" (like "Debian
> Classic"). I'd prefer don't to use "deb" in the name at all.
>
> Fourthly, if I understood correctly, the aim of the project is to be
> Debian, but with preserving the free of choice in technical meaning (not
> only in juridical). So the name should reflect this, too. So obvious
> name parts are "free"/"libre"/"lib"/etc. Also the free of choice can be
> associated with abstract good ("nice"/"cute"/"pureness"/etc). Also other
> languages can be used ("bona"/"gratuit"/ etc).
>
> It's not my variants, but just few examples of more appropriate name for
> such project (IMHO):
> - Netian (combination of "net" means "network" and "net" means
> pure/clean, but sounds not good enough)
> - Drivian ("driven" in meaning of "controllable")
> - Ian (simple, concisely and respectful to both Ians [Jackson and
> Murdock])
>
> I think you should think in this direction :)
>
>
> Best regards, Dmitry.
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2014 09:48:07 +0300
> From: Dmitry Yu Okunev <dyokunev@???>
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> Subject: Re: [Dng] Devuan Logo
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> On 12/02/2014 09:33 AM, Dmitry Yu Okunev wrote:
> > Hello.
> >>>>> Freebian (sound similar to "tr?s bien" = "Very good" in french)
> >
> > I think you should think in this direction :)
>
> P.S.: I like variant "Freebian".
>
>
> Best regards, Dmitry.
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> Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2014 01:54:08 -0500 (EST)
> From: "Peter (peabo) Olson" <peabo@???>
> To: dng@???, Dmitry Yu Okunev <dyokunev@???>
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> > On December 2, 2014 at 1:33 AM Dmitry Yu Okunev <dyokunev@???>
> wrote:
>
> [ ... stuff omitted ...]
>
> > Fourthly, if I understood correctly, the aim of the project is to be
> > Debian, but with preserving the free of choice in technical meaning (not
> > only in juridical). So the name should reflect this, too. So obvious
> > name parts are "free"/"libre"/"lib"/etc. Also the free of choice can be
> > associated with abstract good ("nice"/"cute"/"pureness"/etc). Also other
> > languages can be used ("bona"/"gratuit"/ etc).
> >
> > It's not my variants, but just few examples of more appropriate name for
> > such project (IMHO):
> > - Netian (combination of "net" means "network" and "net" means
> > pure/clean, but sounds not good enough)
> > - Drivian ("driven" in meaning of "controllable")
> > - Ian (simple, concisely and respectful to both Ians [Jackson and
> Murdock])
> >
> > I think you should think in this direction :)
> >
> >
> > Best regards, Dmitry.
>
> I like Libian
>
> There is a slight problem of pronunciation ... libEan or lYbian (for
> English
> speakers), I would pronounce it the first way.
>
> Peter Olson
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2014 08:06:25 +0100
> From: "Dr. Nikolaus Klepp" <dr.klepp@???>
> To: dng@???
> Subject: Re: [Dng] Devuan Logo
> Message-ID: <201412020806.25488.dr.klepp@???>
> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> > I like Libian
> >
> > There is a slight problem of pronunciation ... libEan or lYbian (for
> English
> > speakers), I would pronounce it the first way.
>
> Beware that this name could cause an invasion by armed military forces to
> bomb freedom into Lybia again. Probably the'll send the redhats this time
> ... ;-)
>
> Nik
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2014 08:09:05 +0100
> From: "Ing. Mattia Munari - Uptime Varese s.r.l."
>         <mattia.munari@???>
> To: dng@???
> Subject: Re: [Dng] Devuan Logo
> Message-ID: <547D6591.4010901@???>
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>
> Il 02/12/2014 08:06, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp ha scritto:
> >> I like Libian
> >>
> >> There is a slight problem of pronunciation ... libEan or lYbian (for
> English
> >> speakers), I would pronounce it the first way.
> >
> > Beware that this name could cause an invasion by armed military forces
> to bomb freedom into Lybia again. Probably the'll send the redhats this
> time ... ;-)
> >
> > Nik
> >
>
> I think we are alredy known as Devuan...
>
> http://www.commitstrip.com/en/2014/12/01/systemd-world-the-park-is-open/
>
> Cheers.
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2014 08:20:11 +0100
> From: mutek <mutek@???>
> To: <dng@???>
> Subject: Re: [Dng] Devuan Logo
> Message-ID: <300fd4b7-cd80-4de3-b062-368e915fd9d0@???>
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> On marted? 2 dicembre 2014 07:48:07 CEST, Dmitry Yu Okunev wrote:
> > On 12/02/2014 09:33 AM, Dmitry Yu Okunev wrote:
> >> Hello.
> >>>>>> Freebian (sound similar to "tr?s bien" = "Very good" in french)
> >>
> >> I think you should think in this direction :)
> >
> > P.S.: I like variant "Freebian".
>
> sounds good to me
>
> thanks
> m
>
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2014 07:41:56 +0000
> From: chris <chris@???>
> To: dng@???
> Subject: Re: [Dng] Devuan Logo [NOT name issues]
> Message-ID: <547D6D44.8080703@???>
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>
> just to recap I have floated a few ideas
>
> http://chrisc.bedroomcoders.co.uk/img/devuan.svg a visual pun of a mouse
> http://chrisc.bedroomcoders.co.uk/img/devuan2.svg a text only aid to
> pronunciation !
> http://chrisc.bedroomcoders.co.uk/img/devuan3.svg the uffington horse
> (thats uffington not *h*uffington!!) -
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uffington_White_Horse
>
> There doesn't seem to be any clear "winner" here and I'm still keen to
> hear ideas
>
> please bare in mind the above are prototypes only for selection purposes
>
>
> Does anyone think its worth me creating an icon vote page (I'd be
> willing to accept submissions for this but suggest monochrome svg only -
> greater simplicity/clearer and easier physical printing)
>
> Is there anyone from the VUA who has a specific preference for mascot or
> icon ?
>
> Best
> C
>
>
> On 02/12/14 07:20, mutek wrote:
> > On marted? 2 dicembre 2014 07:48:07 CEST, Dmitry Yu Okunev wrote:
> >> On 12/02/2014 09:33 AM, Dmitry Yu Okunev wrote:
> >>> Hello.
> >>>>>>> Freebian (sound similar to "tr?s bien" = "Very good" in french)
> >>>
> >>> I think you should think in this direction :)
> >>
> >> P.S.: I like variant "Freebian".
> >
> > sounds good to me
> >
> > thanks
> > m
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