On Monday, 1 de December de 2014 08:03:52 Waschbüsch Martin escribió:
> > Am 01.12.2014 um 08:39 schrieb Franco Lanza <nextime@???>:
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 01, 2014 at 08:36:12AM +0100, Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> >> Well, how many people do you have to divert your efforts on systemd and
> >> sysv?
> >
> > You mean how many people we are in total? more than we expect
> > considering how many are offering to help.
> >
> > How many people are willing to work on systemd? i bet no one actually.
> > But this isn't the point of the differentiation between
> > philosophy and doability.
>
> To maybe solve some of the disagreement here, imagine a to-do list
> for Devuan as a project.
>
> (I hope I am not misinterpreting Franco)
>
> Some people seem to demand that one of the things on the to-do list
> says:
> 'Put in effort to keep systemd out because we hate it'.
>
> Franco, instead, points out that every item on that list should be a
> positive statement promoting freedom of choice like so:
> 'repackage foo so it can co-exist with ba'.
>
> Now, since, from what I can see, systemd is by design a cathedral
> approach, it will conflict with the bazaar approach as shown above.
>
> This means that by virtue of the 'freedom of choice' paradigm:
> If systemd upstream or any interested party puts in effort to make
> systemd fit in with the bazaar approach, then we should welcome them
> with open arms.
>
> If no one does that work, then systemd will not work in Devuan.
>
> But the reason for that, and that is the key, will be:
> It will not be supported because upstream chose not to be compatible
> with the bazaar approach, not because we did anything to keep it out.
>
> Does that make more sense?
>
> Martin

You made my point as well.

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