"Let's them talk. They also was saying that debianfork.org 1 month ago
was just a single person trolling. We are doing things, no time for
trolling for us."

I hope it works out. I hope you get many many people to help you.
I've forked things too, the key is to never look at the "jonses"
again: ignore the project you forked from most of the time. Only check
them once a year to see if there's anything you want to take for your
own project.

This way you rocket to the moon on your own stable platform.
I've forked games tho, I hope distros are like that too.


On 12/1/14, Gregory Smith <gregorysmith1974a@???> wrote:
> And in all this Linus Trovalds doesn't give a DAMN. He endorsed
> systemd at debconf '14: saying he uses it, what's the problem? "It's
> won right?" Then he claimed he doesn't know anything about userspace.
>
> It feels like linux is covered in mud now. It's unstable (the kernel)
> often too...
> Random processes running in the background multiply and multiply every
> new release (and then pull in dependancies so your old stuff that used
> to work now requires a daemon). Everytime something in userspace is
> completed, they go and rewrite it.
>
> (What's wrong with kde1.x? gnome 1.x and gnome 2.x? Why don't these
> "exist" anymore. Why can we never get to use stable software, we're
> always pushed to the next newest thing (new thing, same name)) (Note:
> I use a different, very minimal WM)
>
> And linus doesn't give a fk.
> Linux is crap now. It's golden age is behind it. I just don't
> understand why working software is abandoned by every single distro
> and we must use non-working software instead. Why not keep gnome 1
> around and kicking. All other old unix WMs get updated maybe once in
> 10 years, if ever: once they are feature complete and stablethey're
> done. They don't get replaced and thrown out.
>
> Linux signed went downhill once they got rid of the stable branch.
>
>
>
>
>
> On 12/1/14, Gregory Smith <gregorysmith1974a@???> wrote:
>> They claim the debianfork originated on 4chan. I mean, I can see that
>> happening, 4chan is all about cats and loli drawings correct? Cute
>> things. I'm a programmer, I like cute things, I could see others also
>> being of the same mindset and starting discussion there. (I never go
>> to 4chan tho, seems too dangerous. The archives on other sites:
>> sometimes, this popped up on google tho in a search for Devuan)
>>
>> I really hope this takes off. Linux is dead if it doesn't. I don't
>> know where I'll go for the next machine that won't boot off of debian
>> 7.x . I like linux because of the grsecurity kernel and ALSA's great
>> midi support (and that it's all a simple unix systemd and I can set it
>> to run the least amount of things (well I could in the past before
>> dbus...and now this))
>>
>> Maybe I'll just need to buy up all the old (pre 2013) machines I can?
>>
>>
>> On 12/1/14, Rudy Lorren <rueday37@???> wrote:
>>> Your first problem is taking anything /g/ has to say seriously. 4chan
>>> makes reddit look like Jesus himself. And I don't know if your on reddit
>>> much but they are generally assholes
>>> On Dec 1, 2014 8:44 AM, "Gregory Smith" <gregorysmith1974a@???>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Can you shill your website somewhere else? This, like every other /g/
>>>> project, isn't going to go anywhere. Sorry you're buttmad about
>>>> systemd. Get over it."
>>>>
>>>> :(
>>>>
>>>> I hope they're wrong for once. I hope this is the 1 success after 99
>>>> failures.
>>>> Most of what I make is mediocre or crap, but I keep making stuff,
>>>> because once in awhile (especially in music), you just happen to make
>>>> something that's allright.
>>>> I hope this Distro is real and makes it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 12/1/14, Gregory Smith <gregorysmith1974a@???> wrote:
>>>> > I hope they are incorrect. Please let the be incorrect. It cannot be
>>>> > that all the old guard of linux have left and all that is around as
>>>> > devs of distros (for instance: I'm a game programmer, and used to do
>>>> > system admin, I don't know much about putting together a distro) is
>>>> > the people that like systemd. You really need to gather up as many
>>>> > distro devs and old guard guys as possible and put something out, and
>>>> > get a structure together and go.
>>>> >
>>>> > https://boards.4chan.org/g/thread/45410766
>>>> > Choice quotes:
>>>> > "Devuan is a scam.
>>>> >
>>>> > The person in charge is a multimedia programmer, not a sysadmin.
>>>> >
>>>> > Their github basically has 0 relevant code so far."
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> >
>>>> > "v a p o r w a r e"
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> >
>>>> > "Devuan is the name of the next black thug martyr that a neighborhood
>>>> > watchman or policeman will shoot."
>>>> >
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