And in all this Linus Trovalds doesn't give a DAMN. He endorsed
systemd at debconf '14: saying he uses it, what's the problem? "It's
won right?" Then he claimed he doesn't know anything about userspace.

It feels like linux is covered in mud now. It's unstable (the kernel)
often too...
Random processes running in the background multiply and multiply every
new release (and then pull in dependancies so your old stuff that used
to work now requires a daemon). Everytime something in userspace is
completed, they go and rewrite it.

(What's wrong with kde1.x? gnome 1.x and gnome 2.x? Why don't these
"exist" anymore. Why can we never get to use stable software, we're
always pushed to the next newest thing (new thing, same name)) (Note:
I use a different, very minimal WM)

And linus doesn't give a fk.
Linux is crap now. It's golden age is behind it. I just don't
understand why working software is abandoned by every single distro
and we must use non-working software instead. Why not keep gnome 1
around and kicking. All other old unix WMs get updated maybe once in
10 years, if ever: once they are feature complete and stablethey're
done. They don't get replaced and thrown out.

Linux signed went downhill once they got rid of the stable branch.





On 12/1/14, Gregory Smith <gregorysmith1974a@???> wrote:
> They claim the debianfork originated on 4chan. I mean, I can see that
> happening, 4chan is all about cats and loli drawings correct? Cute
> things. I'm a programmer, I like cute things, I could see others also
> being of the same mindset and starting discussion there. (I never go
> to 4chan tho, seems too dangerous. The archives on other sites:
> sometimes, this popped up on google tho in a search for Devuan)
>
> I really hope this takes off. Linux is dead if it doesn't. I don't
> know where I'll go for the next machine that won't boot off of debian
> 7.x . I like linux because of the grsecurity kernel and ALSA's great
> midi support (and that it's all a simple unix systemd and I can set it
> to run the least amount of things (well I could in the past before
> dbus...and now this))
>
> Maybe I'll just need to buy up all the old (pre 2013) machines I can?
>
>
> On 12/1/14, Rudy Lorren <rueday37@???> wrote:
>> Your first problem is taking anything /g/ has to say seriously. 4chan
>> makes reddit look like Jesus himself. And I don't know if your on reddit
>> much but they are generally assholes
>> On Dec 1, 2014 8:44 AM, "Gregory Smith" <gregorysmith1974a@???>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> "Can you shill your website somewhere else? This, like every other /g/
>>> project, isn't going to go anywhere. Sorry you're buttmad about
>>> systemd. Get over it."
>>>
>>> :(
>>>
>>> I hope they're wrong for once. I hope this is the 1 success after 99
>>> failures.
>>> Most of what I make is mediocre or crap, but I keep making stuff,
>>> because once in awhile (especially in music), you just happen to make
>>> something that's allright.
>>> I hope this Distro is real and makes it.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/1/14, Gregory Smith <gregorysmith1974a@???> wrote:
>>> > I hope they are incorrect. Please let the be incorrect. It cannot be
>>> > that all the old guard of linux have left and all that is around as
>>> > devs of distros (for instance: I'm a game programmer, and used to do
>>> > system admin, I don't know much about putting together a distro) is
>>> > the people that like systemd. You really need to gather up as many
>>> > distro devs and old guard guys as possible and put something out, and
>>> > get a structure together and go.
>>> >
>>> > https://boards.4chan.org/g/thread/45410766
>>> > Choice quotes:
>>> > "Devuan is a scam.
>>> >
>>> > The person in charge is a multimedia programmer, not a sysadmin.
>>> >
>>> > Their github basically has 0 relevant code so far."
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> >
>>> > "v a p o r w a r e"
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> >
>>> > "Devuan is the name of the next black thug martyr that a neighborhood
>>> > watchman or policeman will shoot."
>>> >
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